The Tories

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

No, it's a basic tenet of a civilised society. But a place of your own, paid for off the backs of someone elses efforts is.



Most of those concerned will have parents, but due to the "it's my right & I want everything now mentality !" Many would have struck out, with hands held outstretched wanting & the system, gawd luv 'em has doled it out hand over fist.

And where will these new homeless sleep?..not sure how it goes in Germany but this is how it will work here.. they will either live on the streets or be moved into expensive "bed and breakfast" and specially in the large cities.. saving money? the people claiming housing benefits in this country are not the ones living in luxury.. it's the private landlords who will reap those benefits.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Mancie

And where will these new homeless sleep?..not sure how it goes in Germany but this is how it will work here.. they will either live on the streets or be moved into expensive "bed and breakfast" and specially in the large cities.. saving money? the people claiming housing benefits in this country are not the ones living in luxury.. it's the private landlords who will reap those benefits.

It's guaranteed then is it ? That all those receiving support will in one stroke end up on the street ? Seems a little drastic to say the least, no I can't see that happening somehow.

I'd agree with you on the private landlords issue, some are taking the pish to put it mildly, but then there are others who are playing it straight. I'd say that the responsibility lies with the agencies paying out, they need to look again & get a grip where required.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

It's guaranteed then is it ? That all those receiving support will in one stroke end up on the street ? Seems a little drastic to say the least, no I can't see that happening somehow.

I'd agree with you on the private landlords issue, some are taking the pish to put it mildly, but then there are others who are playing it straight. I'd say that the responsibility lies with the agencies paying out, they need to look again & get a grip where required.

Aw come one.. it's a pretty sure thing that some of those who loose housing benifit will end up on the streets.. and like I said those who don't will have to be housed in private bedsits or likely bed and breakfast "hotels" owend by private landlords and paid for by the taxpayer..I'm not sure which way you are looking at this but to me it does not work out as any way of saving money.. it's just an idealogy of the Tories.

[cmonstanley]

i see the plan ,tory mates set up charities for homeless borrow money off the new bank set up by tories for charities to borrow off get wage off charity privatise new bank new bank goes bust tories keep more taxpayers money theres a plan there somewhere maunday you aint seen nothing yet just wait till universal credit comes in

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

It's guaranteed then is it ? That all those receiving support will in one stroke end up on the street ? Seems a little drastic to say the least, no I can't see that happening somehow.

As we speak we are getting on to almost 3 million unemployed in the UK..around 22% of that figure are under 24yrs old ..over 1 million..what percentage are workshy scroungers you and this government make them out to be?.
From day one this government have had only one aim and that is to make cuts in everything.. that includes any attempt of training our youngsters in the industry we need to survive in a world economy..it's the same old wing on a prayer market forces ideology they have always had ... and it's crap .

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Mancie

As we speak we are getting on to almost 3 million unemployed in the UK..around 22% of that figure are under 24yrs old ..over 1 million..what percentage are workshy scroungers you and this government make them out to be?.
From day one this government have had only one aim and that is to make cuts in everything.. that includes any attempt of training our youngsters in the industry we need to survive in a world economy..it's the same old wing on a prayer market forces ideology they have always had ... and it's crap .

My mistake ..almost 1 million under 25yrs old.. a slight gliche on my part but still almost a 3rd of all unemployed.. not very good for the future and this is here and now.. will these figures get any better under this government?

[cmonstanley]

yep and private firms are defrauding the taxpayers by making up apprenticeships look at morrisons 40% of their staff are on goverment apprenticeships.one firm got 45 million pounds last year zenos

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

yep and private firms are defrauding the taxpayers by making up apprenticeships look at morrisons 40% of their staff are on goverment apprenticeships.one firm got 45 million pounds last year zenos

Ya it should be stopped, another couple of hundred thousand on the dole so you and the drunk can ring your hands in glee and shout nasty Tories , your pair of divvies

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

yep and private firms are defrauding the taxpayers by making up apprenticeships look at morrisons 40% of their staff are on goverment apprenticeships.one firm got 45 million pounds last year zenos

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya it should be stopped, another couple of hundred thousand on the dole so you and the drunk can ring your hands in glee and shout nasty Tories , your pair of divvies

Cmon is correct about private firms defrauding the government n taxpayers n if yeh think that should be allowed to carry on yer the divvy.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Com is correct about private firms defrauding the government n taxpayers n if ya think that should be allowed to carry on yer the divvy.

No it shouldn't be allowed to carry on but neither should it be withdrawn, putting more people on the dole, something that Dumb and Dumber would love so they can carry on their tirade against the government, its a poor state of affairs when people are jumping through hoops doing hands stands a cheering when people lose their jobs, most of which was caused by their useless mates in the first place, just so they can gloat, now that really is the pits

[cmonstanley]

unemployment was falling under labour when the tories came in they went up simples It's a compliment to be a tax haven, says Francis Maude - Telegraph theres no money lol your having a giraffe

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

unemployment was falling under labour when the tories came in they went up simples It's a compliment to be a tax haven, says Francis Maude - Telegraph theres no money lol your having a giraffe

And you actually think that it wouldn't have gone up if Labour had a won the election, we would have ended up with 7, 8 maybe 9 million unemployed if they'd have been allowed to carry on spending, or should I say borrowing and spending like they do, Labour have always preceded of disastrous economic management, they don't to economics and if you can't get that right you can't get anything right, clown

[cmonstanley]

anything for a free lunch Hoban lunched with bankers every fortnight - IFAonline this is taking the mick .i wonder if he still claimed expenses.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

unemployment was falling under labour when the tories came in they went up simples

The biggest increase in U.K. unemployment, happened between 2007 and 2009.

When we had a Labour government.

Here's a pretty little graph for you to look at, which clearly illustrates this.

Well, it does to those not wearing blinkers.

BBC News - Unemployment in graphics

[Margaret Pilkington]

Oh G he won't want to look at that...especially if it shows the Labour government in their true colours( a nice flattering heliotrope).