the tories cant blame labour now

[Acrylic-bob]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Britian (sic) has signed nothing that makes us liable to bail out the Irish...we are not involved in the Eurozone which has it's own massive funds to deal with the problems with Greece and Ireland.

I think you need to check your facts, comrade.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I think you need to check your facts, comrade.

You can be sure I do check the facts...the only binding agreement in the EU involves financial aid for natural disasters, such as earthquakes and so on... can you post any proof of Britian legally bound to give finance to any Eurozone member?... I doubt it.

[Acrylic-bob]

Originally Posted by Mancie

the only binding agreement in the EU involves financial aid for natural disasters, such as earthquakes and so on...

Is that so, and what pray constitutes 'natural disasters and so on...', it strikes me that, if past behaviour is any indication of furture trends, your socialist comrades in Brussels and Frankfurt can and will make it mean anything that suits them. Other rescue funds exist only as notional funds at the moment, until one of the PIIGS decides they cannot do without further subsidy and then the UK will have to fork out it's share whether we approve or not. Your mates, Brown, Darling, Blair and Mandelson have well and truly shafted the lot of us.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Is that so, and what pray constitutes 'natural disasters and so on...', it strikes me that, if past behaviour is any indication of furture trends, your socialist comrades in Brussels and Frankfurt can and will make it mean anything that suits them. Other rescue funds exist only as notional funds at the moment, until one of the PIIGS decides they cannot do without further subsidy and then the UK will have to fork out it's share whether we approve or not. Your mates, Brown, Darling, Blair and Mandelson have well and truly shafted the lot of us.

There's another point... the actual article which involes emergency financial aid was signed by.. John major in the Maastricht treaty...

[Acrylic-bob]

First they lied to us and we did nothing.
Then they robbed us and we did nothing.
Now they are going to enslave us and.........

[Mancie]

It's likely that if labour were still in power they would hve done the same as the tories... but this government, and thier supporters, should take responsibility for thier own actions.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

First they lied to us and we did nothing.
Then they robbed us and we did nothing.
Now they are going to enslave us and.........

And you are telling the truth A-B?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

And you are telling the truth A-B?

More of the truth than Blair, Brown or Darling ever did

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

And you are telling the truth A-B?

Bob is right when he says the EU will work out some way to involve non-Eurozone countries in financial funding to the crisis in Ireland...this government have no binding agreement to bail out Ireland but will get round this by making a "loan" .. the starter of this thread was asking wether the tories can yet again blame labour? as expected we get the same old response from the tory blokes carping on about stuff like "The Social Charter"..which had nothing to do with proping up any Euro members... the tories got a few votes on the pretence that they could blame labour for everything and hope the public were stupid enough to go along with what they say without question...pretty much the same as the tories posts on here

[JCB]

If the UK makes any contribution to a loan to assist Ireland , I think you will find that it comes through the IMF rather than the European Central Bank .

Let's not forget that in the past the UK has been only too glad to have money loaned to it by the IMF .

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by JCB

If the UK makes any contribution to a loan to assist Ireland , I think you will find that it comes through the IMF rather than the European Central Bank .

Let's not forget that in the past the UK has been only too glad to have money loaned to it by the IMF .

Ya As Denis Healey, they wouldn't lend him any in the late seventies to help clear up Labour's last mess

[cashman]

well now thatchers old poodle lord young has spoke out, "we never had it so good", cameron has virtually proved he thinks the same by not sacking him immediately, it shows what the mega-rich tories think, whilst the ordinary tory voter, follows naively along thinking good ole conservatives, but never mind lads Labours to blame.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

well now thatchers old poodle lord young has spoke out, "we never had it so good", cameron has virtually proved he thinks the same by not sacking him immediately, it shows what the mega-rich tories think, whilst the ordinary tory voter, follows naively along thinking good ole conservatives, but never mind lads Labours to blame.

Talking like that cashy you'll qualify for honorary life membership of the cynics society

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

well now thatchers old poodle lord young has spoke out, "we never had it so good", cameron has virtually proved he thinks the same by not sacking him immediately, it shows what the mega-rich tories think, whilst the ordinary tory voter, follows naively along thinking good ole conservatives, but never mind lads Labours to blame.

Mind you I think your right, he should have sacked him then reappointed him like blair did with Mandy 3 times, Blunket twice and still put up with gaff a week Two Jags saying well John's John isn't he

[cmonstanley]

like his bow tie lol BBC News - Lord Young apology over 'never had it so good' remarks