the tories cant blame labour now - Page 6

DaveinGermany · 21-11-2010, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

To bring them into, and maintain them, in service would have cost far more money than the original cost.
Specialist support at all levels, training costs of all those support specialists, servicing equipment, spares - the support costs would be astronomical. Some courses (full time), could last for over a year - imagine the cost of that.

That being the case why were they sanctioned in the first place then ? Doesn't make sense if the running costs are to be so prohibitive.

Back to you C'mon, I believe as the aircraft was authorised under Labour.

Barrie Yates · 21-11-2010, 15:39

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

That being the case why were they sanctioned in the first place then ? Doesn't make sense if the running costs are to be so prohibitive.

Back to you C'mon, I believe as the aircraft was authorised under Labour.

Probably part political. The trouble with buying weapons from across the pond, the prats at MoD Purchasing Executive & others decide that some things must be changed - hence Cobras that couldn't communicate with UK ground forces and numerous other systems, but jobs for some areas of UK

JCB · 21-11-2010, 20:12

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

more like a political decision, another thought just came to me if tories and business men think this BBC News - Theo Paphitis defends Lord Young's recession comments it must mean that they are admitting labour were doing something right

Lord Young says that we have never had it so good , just as Harold Macmillan said the same in 1957 , and the latter was able to say it thanks to the boom in the post-war global economy .

The word "global" seems to have disappeared from the vocabulary of many of our politicians .
All the good is due to them , and all the bad is due to their opponents .
The fact that there is a world outside of themselves is conveniently forgotten .

jaysay · 22-11-2010, 10:23

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Originally Posted by JCB

Lord Young says that we have never had it so good , just as Harold Macmillan said the same in 1957 , and the latter was able to say it thanks to the boom in the post-war global economy .

The word "global" seems to have disappeared from the vocabulary of many of our politicians .
All the good is due to them , and all the bad is due to their opponents .
The fact that there is a world outside of themselves is conveniently forgotten .

With reasoning like that JCB you should have been a politician

JCB · 22-11-2010, 20:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay

With reasoning like that JCB you should have been a politician

An interesting idea , but I am confused about the Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties . And today Ed Milliband has said that it's the end of New Labour . So is it to be Labour or Old Labour or what ?

Things are bad enough without me making them worse .

cmonstanley · 22-11-2010, 21:31

its new new labour

wonder where the tories found money to loan to ireland and when do they expect it back.why didnt they loan money to forgemasters another political decision BBC News - Sheffield Forgemasters' £80m nuclear parts loan axed the more this year goes on the more thee tories stink

in fact clueless comes to mind

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 01:58

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Originally Posted by JCB

Lord Young says that we have never had it so good , just as Harold Macmillan said the same in 1957 , and the latter was able to say it thanks to the boom in the post-war global economy .

It's all very well saying "we have never had it so good" on radio and then having a lunch time meeting in a top rate restaurant working out how to tax the public with higher VAT in order to lower the deficiet, when ordinary British people find it hard to get work.. to my mind this is what the tories are all about.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's all very well saying "we have never had it so good" on radio and then having a lunch time meeting in a top rate restaurant working out how to tax the public with higher VAT in order to lower the deficiet, when ordinary British people find it hard to get work.. to my mind this is what the tories are all about.

1-58am the Special Brew is taking hold

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 10:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay

1-58am the Special Brew is taking hold

Yeah.. just around the time you used to put the kettle on for your boss pete.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 10:37

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Yeah.. just around the time you used to put the kettle on for your boss pete.

Oh come on Mancie I expect a better reply than that, what bloody Tory is working at that time in a morning

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 11:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Oh come on Mancie I expect a better reply than that, what bloody Tory is working at that time in a morning

OK.. don't put the kettle on.. give us some more of your brilliant co-dem eonomic policy that you watched on telly!

JCB · 23-11-2010, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's all very well saying "we have never had it so good" on radio and then having a lunch time meeting in a top rate restaurant working out how to tax the public with higher VAT in order to lower the deficiet, when ordinary British people find it hard to get work.. to my mind this is what the tories are all about.

As the French political philosopher Alex de Tocqueville said : " We get the government we deserve ."

Ultimately the electorate is to blame if you want to blame anyone .

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Mancie

OK.. don't put the kettle on.. give us some more of your brilliant co-dem eonomic policy that you watched on telly!

Better still don't be so bloody lazy get up from the computer and switch the telly on

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 11:27

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Originally Posted by JCB

As the French political philosopher Alex de Tocqueville said : " We get the government we deserve ."

Ultimately the electorate is to blame if you want to blame anyone .

I did that from 1997 to 2010 JCB

JCB · 29-11-2010, 11:27

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

its new new labour

New new labour .

I'm not a fan of John Humphrys , but he was interviewing Ed Milliband last week on The Today programme about Ed's relaunch of Labour .

He took Ed to pieces . Ed's responses to Humphrey's prodding about what his policies amounted to were so vacuous .
Ed couldn't come up with anything concrete , just vague waffling .

If Ed can't do better than that , Labour are going to have to prepare for another 18 years in opposition .