The value of public funded art - Page 20

katex · 30-10-2010, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less

The Council must regret the demise of the 'Ossy Cloggers', they didn't have 'backing', their funding came from the children dancing their little legs away whilst parents went around with a bucket, many times at the drop of a floppy hat would they turn up at the Councils request to entertain and amuse the passer bye.
What do we have now Kate? and at whose expense?

If only the Council had made sure those talented folk would keep going instead of the dross we now experience at great expense.

Agree Less, would have been great if they had received funding ...didn't know they had gone, sorry, don't know the story on this. Is there anything we can do to resurrect them ?

Can't agree re. the dross though .. have to take modern with the heritage.

Margaret Pilkington · 30-10-2010, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less

The Council must regret the demise of the 'Ossy Cloggers', they didn't have 'backing', their funding came from the children dancing their little legs away whilst parents went around with a bucket, many times at the drop of a floppy hat would they turn up at the Councils request to entertain and amuse the passer bye.
What do we have now Kate? and at whose expense?

If only the Council had made sure those talented folk would keep going instead of the dross we now experience at great expense.

Yes, I agree, at least the clog dancers were in keeping with the regional heritage of the area.

Margaret Pilkington · 30-10-2010, 19:15

I don't agree that we have to take 'flash mob' dancing as a version of modern heritage.
Modern it might be, but it really has nothing at all to do with the area, and it certainly isn't art.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

Know Garinda did produce expensive shirts for the wealthy.

Not all were 'wealthy'.

Some people would save for an absolute age, because they valued what was offered.

Strange concepts for some.

Economics.

Commerce.

Reality.

Especially by 'artists' who rely on state handouts for their income.

Less · 30-10-2010, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

Agree Less, would have been great if they had received funding ...didn't know they had gone, sorry, don't know the story on this. Is there anything we can do to resurrect them ?

Can't agree re. the dross though .. have to take modern with the heritage.

Having been brought up to be Cloggers by her Mother, the Lass that carried the flag finally got fed up of continually being in debt, (who can blame her, my family and many others paid for other peoples enjoyment), closed the cloggers down some 5 or 6 years ago, nothing on Broadway has ever reached the standard those youngsters gave to the community.
£1,000 for a mediocre dance? She and those Cloggers gave their all for nothing but smiles on strangers faces.
My daughter loved it, my son wasn't so amused, he would rather have gone to Railway exhibitions.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

modern

Crochet - China, fourth century B.C.

Maps? try Babylon, about 2300 B.C.

Drawings that move, as if by magic? Ask Steamboat Willie.

Victorians Swimming? Well you can probably still see that, if you visit Frinton-on-Sea.

katex · 30-10-2010, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

Still no news on the cost of funding the Victorian Swimming Gala?

People need to know, so they can better decide 'the value of public funded art'?

Not a state secret, surely?

Blooming hek Garinda .. were you a Rottweiler in some past life... sure Gayle will be back to give you the exact figures.

Rotweiller.jpg

Less · 30-10-2010, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

Blooming hek Garinda .. were you a Rottweiler in some past life... sure Gayle will be back to give you the exact figures.

Attachment 17006

Ahhh! but will she P.M. him or take a short cut and just put it on site?

katex · 30-10-2010, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't agree that we have to take 'flash mob' dancing as a version of modern heritage.
Modern it might be, but it really has nothing at all to do with the area, and it certainly isn't art.

Can't have 'modern' heritage Margaret ...

Dancing is not an art then ? Always thought it was.

Gotta' move on ya' know. These events don't have to be linked with our heritage .... that is not what it is all about.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

Blooming hek Garinda .. were you a Rottweiler in some past life... sure Gayle will be back to give you the exact figures.

Attachment 17006

Doesn't have to be anyone person.

I'm sure there must be others who know the funding costs.

Perhaps the Victorian who throws the lfe belt, to those in peril, who swim down Broadway?

The Victorian with a bucket, who follows the donkeys through Accrington?

garinda · 30-10-2010, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't agree that we have to take 'flash mob' dancing as a version of modern heritage.
Modern it might be, but it really has nothing at all to do with the area, and it certainly isn't art.

Flash mob events could have been described as modern ten years ago.

Now it's all a bit corporate, and naff.

Less · 30-10-2010, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

These events don't have to be linked with our heritage .... that is not what it is all about.

Could you with all your insight please explain WHAT it is all about for us 'Thicko's'?

katex · 30-10-2010, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

Flash mob events could have been described as modern ten years ago.

Now it's all a bit corporate, and naff.

In YOUR opinion. Again subjective.

I am just impressed by the way young people have joined in this project ... they can relate to this, and are our shoppers of the future.

Less · 30-10-2010, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

In YOUR opinion. Again subjective.

I am just impressed by the way young people have joined in this project ... they can relate to this, and are our shoppers of the future.

Where will they shop?

Tesco? only a spit from were the Market Hall will have been.

katex · 30-10-2010, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less

Could you with all your insight please explain WHAT it is all about for us 'Thicko's'?

Please do not put the fact that my opinion is describing anyone else as 'Thicko's' ... that is spin and attempting to put me in a bad light.

As far as I can see, it is all about marketing and an attempt to give the centre a feel good factor and fun instead of the supermarket aisles.