The value of public funded art

[Margaret Pilkington]

[quote=Bernard Dawson;857086]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I think youre right Margaret I've suggested fact finding missions to other towns before. Let's try and learn from what other towns are doing.

So if there is such a great passion to make Accrington a vibrant town, with shops that will bring in the tourist(even if they are only shopping tourists), why isn't it happening.

Surely if I, (as a lowly retired person) can see this, there must be others far better educated than me,(and in positions of influence) who can see this and work out some way of making it happen here....rather than this gimmicky flim flam which does nothing concrete or lasting to improve, invigorate or promote the town.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Jeez Bernard, go easy.

Giving Peter ideas like that is tantamount to giving the green light for an exclusive Cabinet 'fact finding mission' to somewhere like Monaco or St Tropez.

No, No, No Ken. We are not talking fact finding missions to St Trop.
Just Hebden Bridge....and he can go on the bus, no limosine...let him do the 'common peoples' trip out.
And before he thinks of taking an entourage, it needs no more than four people....someone to look at the financial angle...someone who can spot the trends, someone to take notes and someone to keep the whole lot of them in budget and on track....I would volunteer for that job and do it free!

[garinda]

[quote=Margaret Pilkington;857117]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

So if there is such a great passion to make Accrington a vibrant town, with shops that will bring in the tourist(even if they are only shopping tourists), why isn't it happening.

Surely if I, (as a lowly retired person) can see this, there must be others far better educated than me,(and in positions of influence) who can see this and work out some way of making it happen here....rather than this gimmicky flim flam which does nothing concrete or lasting to improve, invigorate or promote the town.

I've changed my mind.

I will participate in the community art project, The Great Misquote Community Chain.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

So if there is such a great passion to make Accrington a vibrant town, with shops that will bring in the tourist(even if they are only shopping tourists), why isn't it happening.

Surely if I, (as a lowly retired person) can see this, there must be others far better educated than me,(and in positions of influence) who can see this and work out some way of making it happen here....rather than this gimmicky flim flam which does nothing concrete or lasting to improve, invigorate or promote the town.

Talking sense again, Marg. It'll never catch on.

We're entering the endgame for Hyndburn Conservative control, welcome to the Scorched Earth era, the very policy that Jaysay bangs on endlessly about the last Labour government having adopted earlier this year.

The infamous treasury note was hardly our finest hour but will the Tory faithful defend the same approach in Hyndburn?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Talking sense again, Marg. It'll never catch on.

We're entering the endgame for Hyndburn Conservative control, welcome to the Scorched Earth era, the very policy that Jaysay bangs on endlessly about the last Labour government having adopted earlier this year.

The infamous treasury note was hardly our finest hour but will the Tory faithful defend the same approach in Hyndburn?

It was unforgivable when the last Labour government did it.

If we now have a scorthed earth spending policy in Hyndburn, that too is an appalling state of affairs.

[Margaret Pilkington]

sense is what I deal in...there is no worthier coin.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by garinda

It was unforgivable when the last Labour government did it.

If we now have a scorthed earth spending policy in Hyndburn, that too is an appalling state of affairs.

Oh How I agree. What happened to looking after the interests of the bourough?
No don't answer that Ken. I have a feeling that I won't like the answer.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

sense is what I deal in...there is no worthier coin.

...and it costs not a penny.

Nowt!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by garinda

...and it costs not a penny.

Nowt!

Well, only a bit of thought....and that isn't too hard.

[katex]

[quote=Margaret Pilkington;857075]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

If it can be done in Hebden Bridge, then why can't it be done in Accrington?
.

Not going to repeat my thoughts on why not again ... except is a very pretty small place that can be walked around in less than a couple of hours. Primarily a tourist town with boat rides on the canal, meeting of two rivers, good centre for hikers, so is successful in this right alone. It's a lovely day out. Always busy ... try finding a place to park on any day of the week ! Lot of shops closed on Tuesdays though.

Not saying some of their ideas cannot be taken on board ... again, think we made a start with our Food Fair, which attracts 100's.

Originally Posted by garinda

I remember because I unearthed the information that it has the highest density of lesbians, outside of London.

Yes, and has made me a little neurotic everytime I go there wondering about 2 ladies walking together.. mind you, I usually am with a lady friend, so maybe other people are thinking this about us.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Just Hebden Bridge....and he can go on the bus, no limosine...let him do the 'common peoples' trip out.

There is a good train service too from Accrington Railway Station direct to Hebden Bridge .. on the hour.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by katex

Yes, and has made me a little neurotic everytime I go there wondering about 2 ladies walking together.. mind you, I usually am with a lady friend, so maybe other people are thinking this about us.

As long as your lady companion isn't wearing a collar and tie, and stout shoes, stop fretting.

[Acrylic-bob]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

We're entering the endgame for Hyndburn Conservative control, welcome to the Scorched Earth era, the very policy that Jaysay bangs on endlessly about the last Labour government having adopted earlier this year.

The infamous treasury note was hardly our finest hour but will the Tory faithful defend the same approach in Hyndburn?

That is a rather apocalyptic sounding statement Ken. Are you suggesting that the Conservative Group on HBC are preparing to act in a way that would cause damage the Borough in order to secure some sort of political advantage? Or am I misreading you? Perhaps you could expand a little on your theme.

[garinda]

Any news on the costs of funding the Victorian Swimming Gala?

Checked my pm box, and no information posted in there.

So far.

[katex]

Just a little about busking Margaret .. even Hebden Bridge has had its opinions on this :

HebWeb Forum 2010: Busking in Hebden

[Margaret Pilkington]

Interesting Kate......there will be those who like and those who don't...however those who do not like would not contribute...so if someone is absolute rubbish then they would very soon get the message by their empty hat.

The chap we see regularly in Manchester always draws a crowd, and the crowd is made up of all generations.....most of whom seem to be tapping their feet....and he does get lots of 'contributions' for his great skill and foot tapping music.

The difference we are talking, is cost.
These people draw in interested parties...OK, most have gone to look at the shops too, which is why my comments on a diverse shopping experience(meaning diverse shops, not daft gimmicky 'art') are important too.
Making Accrington a vibrant town that people want to visit, is a multi facetted problem, which requires a multi facetted approach and some flair and imagination. Not a 'that'll do' approach.