The value of public funded art - Page 43

garinda · 08-11-2010, 11:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay

That maybe so but not giving a toss is just as bad, if that's the case lets shut all the youth centres and other youth projects and turn the clock back to the 1930s and not give young people any support other than school, like the good old days

Also, if a youth group qualifies for some funding, and they decide to use some of that money on materials for crafts and hobbies, that is their decision.

This in not the same as spending thousands of pounds of council tax payers' money, paying so called profesional artists, to crochet freakin' wooly caterpillars, and exhibit them under the umberalla name of 'community art'

jaysay · 08-11-2010, 11:54

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Originally Posted by garinda

There's never been as much support.

Nor have young people ever had as much materially.

If there's still anti-social behaviour, something's wrong.

Probably due chanelling tax payers' money into brain dead, community art schemes.

The reason for anti-social behaviour, is lack of discipline. no doubt you as well as myself adhered to rules when we were growing up, I respected my parents, teachers and other figures in society, which I'm sure you did too G. There is a lot made in this day and age of young people being respected, the only difference when we were young is you received that respect when you'd earned it, not as a right

garinda · 08-11-2010, 12:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay

The reason for anti-social behaviour, is lack of discipline. no doubt you as well as myself adhered to rules when we were growing up, I respected my parents, teachers and other figures in society, which I'm sure you did too G. There is a lot made in this day and age of young people being respected, the only difference when we were young is you received that respect when you'd earned it, not as a right

Very true, and no matter how much money you throw at it, in the guise of two grand spent gaffiting a park wall, it can't be bought either.

Respect is earned, like the taxes that fund such lunacy.

Barrie Yates · 08-11-2010, 18:05

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Originally Posted by garinda

Very true, and no matter how much money you throw at it, in the guise of two grand spent gaffiting a park wall, it can't be bought either.

Respect is earned, like the taxes that fund such lunacy.

Totally agree with you and Jay.

jaysay · 08-11-2010, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Totally agree with you and Jay.

Hum a threesome

Barrie Yates · 08-11-2010, 22:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Hum a threesome

Don't get carried away

garinda · 09-11-2010, 00:01

Now, this is a pretty little picture.

she speaks like silence by ~guitarsallly on deviantART

jaysay · 09-11-2010, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Don't get carried away

Never do Barrie

jaysay · 09-11-2010, 10:02

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Originally Posted by garinda

Now, this is a pretty little picture.

she speaks like silence by ~guitarsallly on deviantART

We some of the comments were interesting

yerself · 09-11-2010, 10:40

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Originally Posted by garinda

Now, this is a pretty little picture.

Is it by the woman in the Market Hall? It's pretty good for crochet work. I wonder what Brian's view would be about publicly funded crocheting and waterless swimming?

garinda · 09-11-2010, 15:56

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Originally Posted by yerself

Is it by the woman in the Market Hall? It's pretty good for crochet work. I wonder what Brian's view would be about publicly funded crocheting and waterless swimming?

He'll just have to wait and see, like the rest of us, who aren't allowed to know the cost, before the first stroke has been swam, and then decide, if it's of any value to us all, both artistically and finacially.

Gordon Booth · 09-11-2010, 16:10

Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?

Less · 09-11-2010, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?

If Gayle isn't to darken the site again, don't worry about the stick she has taken, she put herself up for this, and has had plenty of free publicity.

She always struck me as someone of reasonable intelligence, surely she knows it goes with the territory?

As for 'Cultural Olympics', how could any Town that puts forward the examples we have had so far be even considering itself, 'Cultural'?

garinda · 09-11-2010, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?

There's been open debate before, about the value of publicly funded ar in the area.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...hem-17904.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ire-17860.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ght-10871.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...poll-8988.html

If the people employed by the tax payer to promote community art, wish to enter into a public debate as to the worth and value of such things, that is totally up to them.

garinda · 09-11-2010, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Has Gayle has decided never to darken this website again, as she said she might? I can't say I blame her if she has, she's taken some stick on here.
However, she never did tell us what Hyndburns contribution to the 'Cultural Olympics' London 2012 would be and what it was going to cost.Does anyone know?

Besides, although it's now apparent Gayle's role is now much more than as that of creative director of the Civic arts centre, and is now concerned with all the arts in Hyndburn, surely there must be more than one person who knows the funding costs of specific events?

Since the information has now been released that Hyndburn Borough Council are providing 'about' 25% of the funding costs, perhaps one of our councillors will inform the public of the finances from the public purse that are involved?

Until such time as there is complete and total openess, and real transparency, of all the funding costs involved, for ALL events, the public has really very little chance of evaluating the true worth to us of community art.