There came wise men from the east........ - Page 2

steeljack · 21-12-2007, 22:23

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Well that's what it says doesn't it? Three wise men, kings or what have you who came from the east to worship the Christ Child?

So how come we depict them in Arab dress riding camels? Surely Arabia is West of Bethlehem?

They were probably Persian (Iranian) Magi ...Zorastrians from Yazd.

Arabia is South of Palestine , to the West of Bethlehem are the illegally occupied lands then the Mediterrean sea

Stanleymad · 21-12-2007, 22:26

Thats why u needed the bright big star to point 3 males in the right direction then

flashy · 21-12-2007, 22:38

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Nah. sorry Flashy. Tom Tom wasn't invented then!

Its a common known fact that blokes have much better navigation due to cavemen going hunting whereas cave WOMEN never left sight of the cave as it was their role t be their for the little ones. Same as spatial awareness... however it also explains teh fire watching.....

HAHAHA carry on

WillowTheWhisp · 21-12-2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by steeljack

They were probably Persian (Iranian) Magi ...Zorastrians from Yazd.

Arabia is South of Palestine , to the West of Bethlehem are the illegally occupied lands then the Mediterrean sea

So it should have been wise men from the south? Or from the south west?

But if they did come from the East, maybe they were really Chinese! Well, the Bible doesn't actually tell us does it?

entwisi · 21-12-2007, 22:47

read up on fire watching , you'll understand.................

WillowTheWhisp · 21-12-2007, 22:59

Fire watching?

emamum · 21-12-2007, 23:02

watching for fires...... in the war and then calling the fire brigade..

cashman · 22-12-2007, 12:38

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

So it should have been wise men from the south? Or from the south west?

But if they did come from the East, maybe they were really Chinese! Well, the Bible doesn't actually tell us does it?

doubt if they were Chinese, was NO Chippies in those days.

MITZY · 22-12-2007, 13:42

................posted incorrectly sorry.....................

yerself · 22-12-2007, 14:16

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Originally Posted by flashytart

Do you know what would of happened if it had been three wise women instead of three wise men?
they would have asked for directions, arrived on time, helped deliver the baby, cleaned the stable, made a casserole, brought practical gifts AND there would of been peace on earth

would HAVE been

Load of old rubbish. They would all have had PMT, kicked and gouged each others eyes out and WW1 would have started 2000 years earlier.

lancsdave · 22-12-2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by cashman

doubt if they were Chinese, was NO Chippies in those days.

mmm 3 gifts of fried rice, chop suey and 2 spring rolls doesn't quite fit the theory does it

Gayle · 22-12-2007, 15:28

Three Kings must be Chinese

We three kings of ORIENT are
Bearing gifts we traverse so far
Field and fountain, moor and mountain
Following yonder star

Isn't it the shepherds that wear the tea towels and arabic type dresses?

cashman · 22-12-2007, 15:45

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Three Kings must be Chinese

ya could be right,Confucious was one i think n he was a wise old git.

WillowTheWhisp · 22-12-2007, 16:14

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Three Kings must be Chinese

We three kings of ORIENT are
Bearing gifts we traverse so far
Field and fountain, moor and mountain
Following yonder star

Isn't it the shepherds that wear the tea towels and arabic type dresses?

Ah but that's a carol Gayle. The Bible doesn't even say they were kings. It says they were wise men. The idea that they were kings comes from non-Biblical tradition as does the idea that there were three. The Bible doesn't mention a number but it does mention 3 gifts and the assumption has been made of three men bringing one gift each.

Yes the shepherds wear the 'tea towels'. The magi are more like Aladdin, after all they were pre-Islam Arabs (or Chinese)