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10-11-2008, 00:21
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Bought some postage stamps the other day from the asian post office on avenue parade ..... instead of the qheens head on them there was a picture of claudia jones ///civil rights activist. on them. I felt like giving them back and saying sorry i want british stamps with our queen on them not some activist.. what the hell is going on in this country. in a few years WE will be the minority in our own country.
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I say the same thing every year.
I buy stamps and there he is, the baby Jesus.
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10-11-2008, 00:27
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
Mind you, I wouldn't particularly want to lick any of the others either.
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10-11-2008, 09:24
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
I think it is great that these women are recognised. These are people who did something for society, and didnt just spend their lives being chauffeured here there and every where waving their hand and living off the rest of us.
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10-11-2008, 10:24
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Bought some postage stamps the other day from the asian post office on avenue parade ..... instead of the qheens head on them there was a picture of claudia jones ///civil rights activist. on them. I felt like giving them back and saying sorry i want british stamps with our queen on them not some activist.. what the hell is going on in this country. in a few years WE will be the minority in our own country.
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I've read all the post before replying, I was going to say that all British stamps have to have the queens head on them, and as the post above shows they have. Since stamps were issued with portraits on them other than the monarch are have been literally thousands issued, the first being William Shakespeare (if I remember rightly), as some one who has a substantial stamp collection, I had an account with the post office, on the day of issue they would send me a mint set, (not first day covers). I think that stamps such as these are very interesting, and certainly better than just the ordinary picture of Liz
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10-11-2008, 11:10
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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I think it is great that these women are recognised. These are people who did something for society, and didnt just spend their lives being chauffeured here there and every where waving their hand and living off the rest of us.
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I don't think a woman such as Marie Stopes, a supporter of eugenics, and who sent Hitler a love letter and a book of her poems, is a person who deserves much admiration.
Royal Mail condemned for honouring 'Nazi' Marie Stopes in Women of Distinction stamps | Mail Online
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10-11-2008, 11:34
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Perhaps it is not for you ( or I ) to decide who is and who is not a suitable person for admiration? Personally i do not perceive them as being their for to be admired but for the contribution they made, through their own efforts, to ordinary peoples lives.
But lets face it inbred, parasites who enjoy the 'sport' of killing animals are not all that deserving of admiration
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10-11-2008, 11:42
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Perhaps it is not for you ( or I ) to decide who is and who is not a suitable person for admiration? Personally i do not perceive them as being their for to be admired but for the contribution they made, through their own efforts, to ordinary peoples lives.
But lets face it inbred, parasites who enjoy the 'sport' of killing animals are not all that deserving of admiration
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Er....excuse me, unlike in Nazi Germany, where there wasn't freedom of speech, I have every right to think that a woman who professed her love for Adolf Hitler isn't a suitable person to be celebrated as a notable Briton, and to appear on our stamps.
Which 'inbred parasites' kill animals for 'sport'?
You've totally lost us there.
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10-11-2008, 11:44
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
I've just realised your remarks were probably aimed at the Royal Family.
At least they don't kill Jews and cripples for fun.
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10-11-2008, 11:46
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
There was no bigger nazi supporter than the ex Prince of Wales(almost king) - was a nazi collaborator/spy (allegedly) - he was shipped off to the Bahamas to limit the damage to our war effort
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10-11-2008, 11:49
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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There was no bigger nazi supporter than the ex Prince of Wales(almost king) - was a nazi collaborator/spy (allegedly) - he was shipped off to the Bahamas to limit the damage to our war effort
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Yes I know that, but that has nothing to do with Marie Stopes, and her being celebrated by appearing on a stamp.
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10-11-2008, 11:58
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
Perhaps some people would like to see a whole set of stamps celebrating British Nazi sympathisers.
As well as Marie Stopes we could have the Duke of Windsor, Oswald Mosley, Diana and Unity Mitford, Lord Rothermere, the then owner of the Daily Mail.
Personally I wouldn't.
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10-11-2008, 12:02
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I imagine that Marie Stopes is commemorated (not necessarily celebrated) by the stamps because of the impact she had by introducing contraceptive services to the average person (women directly the whole population indirectly). I think her private life is irrelevant to this. She changed many peoples life with her pioneering work. End of story
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10-11-2008, 12:08
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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I imagine that Marie Stopes is commemorated (not necessarily celebrated) by the stamps because of the impact she had by introducing contraceptive services to the average person (women directly the whole population indirectly). I think her private life is irrelevant to this. She changed many peoples life with her pioneering work. End of story
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Stopes may have pioneered birth control for working class women, but her advocation of eugenics in relation to her Nazi sympathies, and the resulting atrocities they carried out in that field, is very relevant.
It's like saying Hitler and Mussolini should be remembered respectively for building good roads, and making the trains run on time, rather than their hideous crimes against humanity.
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10-11-2008, 12:24
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As far as I am aware Marie Stopes was not directly responsible for any atrocities
Chill out a little. Few people in this world are perfect. The woman is long since dead and is a symbol of what women can do. Reaping up long forgotten issues serves no purpose
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10-11-2008, 12:30
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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As far as I am aware Marie Stopes was not directly responsible for any atrocities
Chill out a little. Few people in this world are perfect. The woman is long since dead and is a symbol of what women can do. Reaping up long forgotten issues serves no purpose
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Very touching, especially as tomorrow is Rememberance Day.
Happily millions of people do care about 'long forgotten issues', in the hope that it will never happen again.
You may think a Nazi sympathiser is a fit person to have on a British stamp. I do not.
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