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12-11-2008, 23:54
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Funny how the deserters always complain loudest about whats going on locally
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I deserted like many who were fortunate to be able do so because of the massive changes to Accrington Burnley Bradford Blackburn etc.When my young son was first starting his allocated school with a 35% ethnic ratio
and the parents of these ethnic pupils had taught there children there mother language first.Not surprising most could not count or knew there colours.This holds the local indigenous children back at a most important start of there life.When visitors to England dont intergrate and this causes a detrimental effect on young children its time to leave.This is not racism it is a fact.
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13-11-2008, 01:04
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Not surprising most could not count or knew there colours.
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Then the ethnicity of the school wouldn't be a problem for those pupils.
It's a good job you didn't send your children to Eton or Harrow, as the ethnic breakdown is much higher at those two schools, than the percentage you quoted.
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13-11-2008, 13:13
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Then the ethnicity of the school wouldn't be a problem for those pupils.
It's a good job you didn't send your children to Eton or Harrow, as the ethnic breakdown is much higher at those two schools, than the percentage you quoted.
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You cannot compare the elite schools with the normal run-of-the-mill schools.
Just show me one child at Eton or Harrow that does not speak very good English on the day that he starts.
You could also prove your statement with verifiable facts.
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13-11-2008, 13:59
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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You cannot compare the elite schools with the normal run-of-the-mill schools.
Just show me one child at Eton or Harrow that does not speak very good English on the day that he starts.
You could also prove your statement with verifiable facts.
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I can't at the moment.
I'm busy researching the ethnic breakdown of homes for the infirm in Darwen.
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13-11-2008, 14:03
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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the parents of these ethnic pupils had taught there children there mother language first.Not surprising most could not count or knew there colours.This holds the local indigenous children back at a most important start of there life.
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I think that children should not be able to attend schools unless they have reached a certain level in reading/writing/speaking English.
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13-11-2008, 14:50
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
I have worked with children that started school unable to speak english.. Many of the children learn english to a fairly high standard by the time they have left reception class... these children learn colours, shapes and are usually able to read at the same level as the lower ability english children....The ones that reach the second year (usually class 1) are the ones that cant do these things in their first language either.
There are children of all abilities in each class..do the special needs/ learning difficulties children hold the other children back?? Should we put them in special schools away from 'normal' children?
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13-11-2008, 14:51
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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I can't at the moment.
I'm busy researching the ethnic breakdown of homes for the infirm in Darwen.
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Of course you are. Anything, rather than backing up your statements with verifiable facts.
It used to be called flannelling the public.
Make a statement that you have no idea whether it is accurate or not in the sure knowledge that some people will believe it.
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13-11-2008, 15:33
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Did I say it was anything else?
It looks jolly nice, and I'm sure the Republic of Ireland's 32,000 + Muslims enjoy worshipping there, plus anyone else who visits the community centre.
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There must be atleast that figure 32,000 muslims in Hyndburn alone
maybe not the official figure though.
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13-11-2008, 15:45
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Of course you are. Anything, rather than backing up your statements with verifiable facts.
It used to be called flannelling the public.
Make a statement that you have no idea whether it is accurate or not in the sure knowledge that some people will believe it.
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There are no offical figures available.
Perhaps they don't see it as very important.
Using my judgement, after many visits to both establishments in the course of my work, I'd put the figure at 45%, give or take 1%.
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13-11-2008, 15:48
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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There are no offical figures available.
Perhaps they don't see it as very important.
Using my judgement, after many visits to both establishments in the course of my work, I'd put the figure at 45%, give or take 1%.
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perhaps someone has verifiable facts to prove otherwise?
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13-11-2008, 15:55
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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There must be atleast that figure 32,000 muslims in Hyndburn alone
maybe not the official figure though.
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Whats that go to do with a mosque in Dublin ?
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13-11-2008, 17:13
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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There must be atleast that figure 32,000 muslims in Hyndburn alone
maybe not the official figure though.
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Seems that your not that fond of our Commonwealth Brethren Gordie
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13-11-2008, 18:50
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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There are children of all abilities in each class..do the special needs/ learning difficulties children hold the other children back?? Should we put them in special schools away from 'normal' children?
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Yes we should. Maybe not special schools but separate classes. I still think a minimum standard of spoken English should be reached before going to school. Schools should not have to teach non English speaking children how to speak English. It is ridiculous that we provide everything in so many languages for non English speakers. It does nothing to encourage people to speak English and be a part of this Country and does everything to keep us divided into ethnic groups.
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14-11-2008, 22:28
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Originally Posted by Neil
Yes we should. Maybe not special schools but separate classes. I still think a minimum standard of spoken English should be reached before going to school. Schools should not have to teach non English speaking children how to speak English. It is ridiculous that we provide everything in so many languages for non English speakers. It does nothing to encourage people to speak English and be a part of this Country and does everything to keep us divided into ethnic groups.
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Agree 100%, our own childrens education is being held back because of immigrant children because resources are being wasted on teaching how to speak english.
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17-11-2008, 19:33
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Re: Third Mosque for Accrington
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Seems that your not that fond of our Commonwealth Brethren Gordie
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I have no problem with our commonwealth brethran I am not a racist.
It is usually of benefit when immigrants settle into countrys if correct
immigration polices are carried out.
The immigration polices of past and present goverments have caused
the problems that now face the ordinary people of the UK on a daily basis.
I am not going to fool myself like some do and deny that there is no problem.
When most of Accringtons post office queues are largely made up of muslim women who wont or cant be bothered to speek English receiving large amounts of tax payers money and pensioners are picking up a pitance after paying there tax and insurance all there life.
I say enough is enough why should the ordinary people pay for mistakes
of bad immigration polices and let there town slowly resemble a place in Pakistan.
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