This is as good a reason as any - Page 3

blazey · 06-05-2009, 06:52

That doesn't make sense Margaret, that country has severe drugs laws in place and yet it still happens on quite a scale. That to me is just as an inefficient law as what these other people are suggesting the Human Rights Act is.

The child's rights are being upheld by him being up for trial in the first place. Also the child is being given the facilities to not have to stand in court and give the evidence in front of him. I would say the child is quite adequately protected now.

andrewb · 06-05-2009, 06:55

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bollox...to say this government has destroyed a country that was not only brought to it's kness by your lot but was kicked to death in the proccess ..a well organised proccess of getting rid of any sort of "society" we still had...you Andrew and your ilk are a form of human life that will always plague mankind.. a virus that has managed to traverse into human beings.. but you will always be sought out and whatever power you manage to wrangle you will always be defeated.. by mankind.

Well Mancie, your raging criticism sure holds some weight. It's based on the idle link to me voting Conservative. The only entity lacking in this entirely justified scathing attack is a criticism of my views and opinions.

blazey · 06-05-2009, 06:59

If anyone wants to live in a state of anarchist communism then please get in touch. I'm interested in doing this in the near future.

Mancie · 06-05-2009, 07:04

Andrew you are a pain to anyone..no matter the way some may vote..your signiture is a blatant advert for your right wing views.. and whats more ...in my opinion out of order ... not much I can do about that..but I have reported it.

blazey · 06-05-2009, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Andrew you are a pain to anyone..no matter the way some may vote..your signiture is a blatant advert for your right wing views.. and whats more ...in my opinion out of order ... not much I can do about that..but I have reported it.

Shall I report you for supporting English heritage as well?

Give it a rest. He can declare his allegiance to the tory party just like you can wave your flag.

And let's face it, there is nothing more annoying than a flag waver.

Mancie · 06-05-2009, 07:13

yeah there is something more annoying...blatant advertising of a right wing web... using this site as a link to someones personal view...and I have to say goodbye to all... cos the geezer I've complained to is the same bloke thats gonna kick me off!..... thats Tory democracy summed up..if you don't like it you are a tree hugging pussy!

blazey · 06-05-2009, 07:17

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Originally Posted by Mancie

yeah there is something more annoying...blatant advertising of a right wing web... using this site as a link to someones personal view.

Every single post is pretty much a link to a personal view. You impose yours on everyone every time you post.

Nobody is forcing you to click on his links are they?

andrewb · 06-05-2009, 07:26

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Originally Posted by Mancie

yeah there is something more annoying...blatant advertising of a right wing web... using this site as a link to someones personal view...and I have to say goodbye to all... cos the geezer I've complained to is the same bloke thats gonna kick me off!..... thats Tory democracy summed up..if you don't like it you are a tree hugging pussy!

A link to someones personal view? Those people with darn opinions! By ek.. in my Utopia..

Mancie · 06-05-2009, 07:26

no ..i don't click on em and never likley to cos i don't like him... but when an administrator of this site can push his views by advertising then it's tits up... it's a newspaper ..for people that agree or some that pass by just to take a look..I owe this website it don't owe me... but when it turns into a site were a single member can advertise his political leanings at will.. without debate then it's gone.

blazey · 06-05-2009, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Mancie

no ..i don't click on em and never likley to cos i don't like him... but when an administrator of this site can push his views by advertising then it's tits up... it's a newspaper ..for people that agree or some that pass by just to take a look..I owe this website it don't owe me... but when it turns into a site were a single member can advertise his political leanings at will.. without debate then it's gone.

Well what do you think about newspapers allowing adverts for 'massage parlours' and things like that then?

To be honest, I'm sure you could quite easily debate his signature if you really wanted to. But its a bit pathetic to do such a thing, hence why I don't do the same about your flag waving, which I find quite irritating in the same way.

I think you need to stop creating issues where there is no need to. He could just as easily blog on accyweb, what would you do about it then? Not very much you could do to be truthful, its not offensive, you just want censorship.

Mancie · 06-05-2009, 07:34

no censorship!...shut yer gob blazey .. it's like having a debate with R2D2!

blazey · 06-05-2009, 07:42

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Originally Posted by Mancie

no censorship!...shut yer gob blazey .. it's like having a debate with R2D2!

R2D2 is pretty intelligent and humorous.

So you don't agree with censorship but you don't want Andrew to be able to show his political followings in his signature, yet its perfectly ok for you to show your flag?

I think I recall someone else doing this in the past...

Stalin? Hitler?

Yeh, they were pretty popular guys too Mancie.

Mancie · 06-05-2009, 08:05

my sig is the flag of England....it does not portray any political allegience... and it does not send a direct link to right wing or left wing propaganda..someone who has the role of administrator can of course do as they wish.. but I don't like it..I ain't askin anyone else..I'm just that kind of guy... que sera sera!

andrewb · 06-05-2009, 08:16

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Originally Posted by Mancie

my sig is the flag of England....it does not portray any political allegience... and it does not send a direct link to right wing or left wing propaganda..someone who has the role of administrator can of course do as they wish.. but I don't like it..I ain't askin anyone else..I'm just that kind of guy... que sera sera!

Being an admin or not being an admin has as much to do with an orange and an apple going to market where this is concerned.

If you wish to debate my signature, more specifically the content or the rights and wrongs of having opinions that are different to your own, then please start a new thread about it before we all completely derail from the topic. I'm not so sure you should create it in general chat though, this is a place for 'serious discussion'. I'd try anything goes.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-05-2009, 08:24

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Originally Posted by blazey

That doesn't make sense Margaret, that country has severe drugs laws in place and yet it still happens on quite a scale. That to me is just as an inefficient law as what these other people are suggesting the Human Rights Act is.

The child's rights are being upheld by him being up for trial in the first place. Also the child is being given the facilities to not have to stand in court and give the evidence in front of him. I would say the child is quite adequately protected now.

Whether the laws of Laos make sense or not was not the issue....the issue is that this country has well defined and publicised laws on Drug trafficking..........if you can't do the time(or accept the sentence) then you should not do the crime.......again whether the law works, it must deter some people....and certainly when someone is caught, it sends out the message that this is not acceptable behaviour.

As for the child victim.......you may think that her Human Rights are being upheld, but if this man was to win his appeal and be given a lighter sentence and was let out.......perhaps at a time when you have children, would you feel that your children were safe from him?
Shouldn't parents expect that their children will be protected from men like him?

I think that Human Rights should only apply if you prove to have human qualities....this man appears to be inhuman.......caring only for his own pleasures and not caring who these pleasures may harm...permanently.....and while children are very resilient, how do we know that this child is not damaged beyond repair?