This isn't racist? - Page 2

steeljack · 10-03-2011, 02:57

Since it seems to be a publicly funded organisation one would suppose that those running things will have been required to sign a public disclosure notice informing of any familial , matrimonial or fiscal/business links to any Local or County Councillor. Also any elected official would also declare such a conflict of interest and abstain from any committee votes involved in doling out public monies to such groups .
Though I wouldn't hold my breath .

gynn · 10-03-2011, 06:50

I don't have a problem with these ethnic groups receiving public money and limiting their membership to eg black and muslim women. After all, that is the only way to target the money.

Where I DO have a problem is where the groups become vehicles for emphasising the divisions between the the ethnic and the wider community.

If they spend their time teaching people how to fit in with the rest of society, then that is fine and laudable.

If all they do is sit and dream up new ways of making Oswaldtwistle more like the Punjab, then forget it!

jaysay · 10-03-2011, 07:19

I have never been able to get my head round a lot of these so call organisations, which by there very name seen racist and if members of indigenous white population had to reciprocate there would be hell to pay. Can anybody see the powers that be allowing Music of WHITE ORIGIN awards, or White police officers association White Trade Union organisation White Taxi drivers Ass. it would never happen, to me racism, in the eyes of the law, has always been a one way ticket and does fuel groups like the BNP

Neil · 10-03-2011, 07:21

It's the amounts if money awarded that annoyed me. You try and get 1/2 million out of the lottery for something for everyone and not just a small group.

steeljack · 10-03-2011, 07:26

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Originally Posted by gynn

If they spend their time teaching people how to fit in with the rest of society, then that is fine and laudable.

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If thats the case I would have thought the best group to recieve any money to promote and encourage social cohesion within the female segment of the population would have been the Womens Institute, think I once saw a film about how all encompansing they were , nothing ageist or sizeist, they even produced a calender to raise funds , no scrounging for public taxpayer funds .

jaysay · 10-03-2011, 07:28

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Originally Posted by Neil

It's the amounts if money awarded that annoyed me. You try and get 1/2 million out of the lottery for something for everyone and not just a small group.

The only trouble is Neil these groups are more likely to be funded by the lottery than say Friends of Rhyddings Park, who have to work there socks of in trying and then aren't successful

heth · 10-03-2011, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Neil

It's the amounts if money awarded that annoyed me. You try and get 1/2 million out of the lottery for something for everyone and not just a small group.

If the lottery money wasnt awarded the response would most likely be..........

"Is it coz we are black?"

Then that opens a can of worms.

I dont agree with it at all.

garinda · 10-03-2011, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Neil

Which bit is racist?

Er...the bit which states courses are for 'BME ladies only'

With BME referring to black, and mixed ethnic.

garinda · 10-03-2011, 09:07

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Originally Posted by gynn

I don't have a problem with these ethnic groups receiving public money

...and you'd support similar groups, that stated they were for white people only?

There are laws which are supposed to prevent this kind of prejudice. Which are clearly failing.

As stated earlier, these sort of groups mean we'll never be an integrated society. As well as fuelling resentment from those who are blatantly excluded because of their race.

This should never be acceptable.

(Apologies to Neil. I pointed out the racism before I'd read you'd later seen it.)

Neil · 10-03-2011, 09:12

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Originally Posted by garinda

As stated earlier, these sort of groups mean we'll never be an integrated society. As well as fuelling resentment from those who are blatantly excluded because of their race.
This should never be acceptable.

Which is why I don't believe in 'multiculturism' it is just separatist and will never work.

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Originally Posted by garinda

(Apologies to Neil. I pointed out the racism before I'd read you'd later seen it.)

Apologising is a sign of weakness, so I was told by some idiot with no friends and no sense of humour

garinda · 10-03-2011, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

Apologising is a sign of weakness, so I was told by some idiot with no friends and no sense of humour

I only apologised because I'm nice....and you're a bit slow.

gynn · 10-03-2011, 09:23

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Originally Posted by garinda

...and you'd support similar groups, that stated they were for white people only?

Personally, yes I would if they were targeting a specific minority group. Its the wider community that wouldn't.

garinda · 10-03-2011, 09:30

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Originally Posted by gynn

Personally, yes I would if they were targeting a specific minority group. Its the wider community that wouldn't.

Well that's just the sort of stupid, wooly minded liberalism, that has exactly the opposite effect of making sure we are an integrated society.

Name me a minority group that isn't supposedly equal in the eyes of the British law system, that could possibly justify the funding of groups that were exclusive to certain people?

Don't spend too long scrathing your head.

There aren't any.

Less · 10-03-2011, 09:35

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Originally Posted by suedarbo

Is it not racist to say that only Black or ethnic minorities are allowed to attend?

What exactly IS, an Ethnic Minority?

My ex wife hailed from Southern Ireland and my daughter-in-law is Russian.

Are they 'ethnic minorities'? If they wanted to go on these courses would they be accepted?

Or does Ethnic Minority mean anyone that isn't white?

heth · 10-03-2011, 10:05

Well this is the answer I got from a website Less...........

What is a ethnic minority? - True Knowledge