This isn't racist?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

It strikes me that all this is not really racist.. it's more like "exclusionist"..or "exclusionism"

'Black, and minority ethnic ladies only'.

People are being excluded because of their race.

Therefore it's racist.



Same as when they state 'No idiots'.

When they exclude you from things.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

Same as when they state 'No idiots'.

When they exclude you from things.

Could be true.. plenty of idots in the fashion and arts game seems to get on with no problems... but if you ain't gay you have no chance.. exclusionism is rife in all parts of the work place and society.. seems you pick and choose.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Could be true.. plenty of idots in the fashion and arts game seems to get on with no problems... but if you ain't gay you have no chance.. exclusionism is rife in all parts of the work place and society.. seems you pick and choose.

No point trying to reason with you.

Obviously drunk.

There are laws which mean jobs can't be advertised that discriminate along lines of sexual orientation.

Just as they are laws which mean race discrimination is unlawful.

Though some in Accrington seem able to ignore those.

Go to sleep.

You might not be quite so blinkered when sober.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Could be true.. plenty of idots in the fashion and arts game seems to get on with no problems... but if you ain't gay you have no chance.. exclusionism is rife in all parts of the work place and society.. seems you pick and choose.

As stated earlier, all those London boarding houses in the fifties and sixties, which had signs in their windows saying 'No blacks', weren't racist in your eyes, I suppose?

They were merely 'excluding' certain people.

Nothing at all to do with race.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Could be true.. plenty of idots in the fashion and arts game seems to get on with no problems... but if you ain't gay you have no chance.. exclusionism is rife in all parts of the work place and society.. seems you pick and choose.

Oh yeah.

I forgot.

Some discrimination is perfectly alright in your book....when you've had a few.

Homophobia being one such thing.

You really should stop yourself from posting when you've had a drink.

The odds of you winning a debate are tiny at the best of times.

When you're pished, those odds go down to nil.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

Oh yeah.

I forgot.

Some discrimination is perfectly alright in your book....when you've had a few.

Homophobia being one such thing.

You really should stop yourself from posting when you've had a drink.

The odds of you winning a debate are tiny at the best of times.

When you're pished, those odds go down to nil.

Whatever..and are there winners and losers of what you call "debates" on here?.. seems to me any "debate" started by you are controlled by yourself

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Whatever..and are there winners and losers of what you call "debates" on here?.. seems to me any "debate" started by you are controlled by yourself

Not at all.

Everyone has the right to reply.

When something's blatantly racist, such as, and I quote, 'black and ethnic minority ladies only', and it's dismissed as not being racism, but 'exclusionism'.

I'll happily label that blinkered thinking idiotic all day long.

If you think that 'controls' you, tough.

It is clear, and open racism, and is wrong.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

As stated earlier, all those London boarding houses in the fifties and sixties, which had signs in their windows saying 'No blacks', weren't racist in your eyes, I suppose?

They were merely 'excluding' certain people.

Nothing at all to do with race.

I suppose you'd call it just 'exclusionism', rather than racism, when in the seventies the National Front were calling for the repatriation for anyone whose skin wasn't white?

Well it was racist. Just as this 'BME ladies only' is.

I publicly challenged the National Front, and I'll do the same thing with this blatant racism, because it's just as wrong.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Oh yeah.

I forgot.

Some discrimination is perfectly alright in your book....when you've had a few.

Homophobia being one such thing.

You really should stop yourself from posting when you've had a drink.

The odds of you winning a debate are tiny at the best of times.

When you're pished, those odds go down to nil.

Some one once suggested that Mancie should have a breathalyser on his computer, so that when the alcohol gets to a certain level it cuts out, not such a bad idea me thinks

[yerself]

Originally Posted by garinda

'black and ethnic minority ladies only'

Would Guy Gibson's dog be allowed?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by yerself

Would Guy Gibson's dog be allowed?

Think that's already been mentioned yerself

[yerself]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Think that's already been mentioned yerself

That was in another thread.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by yerself

That was in another thread.

Didn't realise there were 2 threads dealing with racism running at this time

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Mancie

So you reckon if a black british born boys protestant parents had applied for the same catholic school and got a refusal there would have been all types of "equalities enforcers" out in support?

Yes Mancie I do ! Simply because of the rules governing equality which are meant to be applied equally across the board to all creeds, colours, genders & persuasions, are more forcefully applied when dealing with a perceived attack on a "minority". Those taking up the torch would see the issue more as a racial issue than a religious one simply because they have a better chance of success on race grounds than religious ones, religion would be a secondary issue.

The press abounds with such tales of discrimination in all walks of life, as I've mentioned elsewhere there is a level of racism & discrimination in all of us & that will never change. As long as we remain human & can't be programmed to think & act in a certain way prejudices will be eternal.

[yerself]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Didn't realise there were 2 threads dealing with racism running at this time

Who said there were? Here's the post from another thread.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/890061-post123.html