This should never be allowed in the UK

[magpie]

we can't even burn coal on our fires..... and I get into trouble for burning garden waste...... is this Britian or What.

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

No problem with it myself, I just wonder if people would have objected so much if it had been any other religion, didn't the Vikings go in for something similar?

Yep....on a boat pushed out to sea.

[SPUGGIE J]

Is it not a Hindu custom as well? I always thought that the fire was to set free the spirit to freely move to the afterlife without anything in the way. Seems to me that in the oven the spirit cant bbe freed in the way people want it to.

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by magpie

we can't even burn coal on our fires..... and I get into trouble for burning garden waste...... is this Britian or What.

I think this may well be an interesting thread to the owners of Clitheroe Auction Market who were fined several thousand pounds for burning cardboard boxes in a specially built furnace.

[MargaretR]

I don't want to have to close my windows to avoid inhaling the smoke from human bodies...notice I said bodies, because in hindu practice they tended to chuck on the widows and concubines too to keep the blaze going well

[derekgas]

Originally Posted by yerself

There could be a business opportunity here Derek. Supplying gas burners.

Well now you have gone and made it a racial issue, they (the asian community), in the main, dont use gas engineers, they just break the law and do it themselves!

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I don't want to have to close my windows to avoid inhaling the smoke from human bodies...notice I said bodies, because in hindu practice they tended to chuck on the widows and concubines too to keep the blaze going well

Margaret you have hit the nail on the head.
How many white vans would be in line to dump rubish onto the pyre before it goes out.
Beats the hell out of Fly Tipping or dump tax.

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by derekgas

Well now you have gone and made it a racial issue, they (the asian community), in the main, dont use gas engineers, they just break the law and do it themselves!

Derek............I'ts not a racial issue I'ts a social issue. If they want to carry out traditions according to the religion they follow then return to the country where that tradition was introduced.
They did it anyway to test the water and the police said it was not in the public interest to prosecute....who came up with that gem?

[jambutty]

I’m on the side of when in Rome.

If the Hindus or anyone else wants to follow their religion’s burial rights and they clash with the law of the land let me point them to the nearest airport.

Not in the public interest Royboy39 is a euphemism for we don’t want to be accused of being racist. Or should that be religionist?

[shakermaker]

OK, now I've stopped giggling at accyman's first comment (it's been a quiet day), I can stick in my two-penneth.

For now, the practice must be forbidden as it clearly breaks the law. However, personally, I think this is a practice that we can learn to be tolerant of, provided we see a degree of compromise due to the series of issues raised so far.

The people who wish for this ceremony to be performed should make a case to the authorities, detailing how they can make it a) safe, and b) environmentally friendly (for people and surroundings) and press it. This kind of thing is what our democratic system is set up for, afterall. If they make such a case and if it is feasible, I for one would support it.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

OK, now I've stopped giggling at accyman's first comment (it's been a quiet day), I can stick in my two-penneth.

For now, the practice must be forbidden as it clearly breaks the law. However, personally, I think this is a practice that we can learn to be tolerant of, provided we see a degree of compromise due to the series of issues raised so far.

The people who wish for this ceremony to be performed should make a case to the authorities, detailing how they can make it a) safe, and b) environmentally friendly (for people and surroundings) and press it. This kind of thing is what our democratic system is set up for, afterall. If they make such a case and if it is feasible, I for one would support it.

that to me is spot on shaker, won't let me give ya karma though.

[lindsay ormerod]

Originally Posted by Royboy39

Margaret you have hit the nail on the head.
How many white vans would be in line to dump rubish onto the pyre before it goes out.
Beats the hell out of Fly Tipping or dump tax.

Your narrow mindedness and zero tolerance of other people's religions and beliefs never ceases to amaze me; would you go and stand otside a crematorium with bags of rubbish? No. Even you couldn't be so crass.
And before you get on your high horse Roy, the fly tipping in Spain is far ,far worse than anything we see here.
People should have right to choose how their remains are disposed of, as long as it's not affecting anyone else's health, what is the problem?
No one is suggesting it's gonna be in Margaret's garden or that we all have to go and watch; older generation eh? You are setting a great example of tolerance and respect, well done!

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by jambutty

I’m on the side of when in Rome.

If the Hindus or anyone else wants to follow their religion’s burial rights and they clash with the law of the land let me point them to the nearest airport.

Not in the public interest Royboy39 is a euphemism for we don’t want to be accused of being racist. Or should that be religionist?

Whilst its against the law its wrong to do it, however the law is not written in stone and is up for discusssion. IF they can provide a suitable place where their beliefs can be accomodated without inconvienience to others then I would support it.

Not in the Public interest to me suggests someone applied some common sense.

to me teh following quote is teh important one

But the authority ruled that the cremation of human remains anywhere outside a crematorium was prohibited under law.

In my eyes what he is applying for is to open an open air crematorium. no more no less, at the end of the day the smoke is piped up out of the chimney at Burnley road and dependant on the wind ends up blowing all over accy anyway, what difference does it make that its from an indoor oven as opposed to an outdoor one.

In fact, I would venture so far as to say I would prefer to be done on an outside one myself rather than some indignity of being just another cadavar to be burnt at some point well after my family have seen me disappear through the curtain to the words that they commit me onwards in what spiritual journey I end up on( if there is one at all for you non believers) when in reality its just to line me up with whoever else happens to be going through the same day.

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Your narrow mindedness and zero tolerance of other people's religions and beliefs never ceases to amaze me; would you go and stand otside a crematorium with bags of rubbish? No. Even you couldn't be so crass.
And before you get on your high horse Roy, the fly tipping in Spain is far ,far worse than anything we see here.
People should have right to choose how their remains are disposed of, as long as it's not affecting anyone else's health, what is the problem?
No one is suggesting it's gonna be in Margaret's garden or that we all have to go and watch; older generation eh? You are setting a great example of tolerance and respect, well done!

Why do you think I will get on my high horse, as you put it?
It seems that you were more in the mood for a rant than me.

[katex]

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