This should never be allowed in the UK - Page 3

Less · 08-05-2009, 10:05

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Originally Posted by katex

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BBC NEWS | England | Tyne | Devout Hindu loses cremation bid

Common sense prevails.

Pity really, they could have gone a traditional step further back and thrown the surviving spouse onto it as well.
Sahagamana from the Chapter "Grhasthasrama", in Hindu Dharma : kamakoti.org:

No I don't really mean such a cruel thing should happen again, I'm trying to point out that it was one traditional part of a funeral pyre that changed, which means that the other part could surely be changed to using a crematorium without the 'soul' of the dead person being compromised.

entwisi · 08-05-2009, 10:59

personally I feel sorry for him and whilst its not my religion i would happily support him in his choice of funeral. He stated that he would be happy for it to be in a place far from residential and urban development.

Tolerance costs nothing.

jaysay · 08-05-2009, 11:12

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Originally Posted by entwisi

personally I feel sorry for him and whilst its not my religion i would happily support him in his choice of funeral. He stated that he would be happy for it to be in a place far from residential and urban development.

Tolerance costs nothing.

Not it doesn't entwisi, but every time we give way its just another nail in the coffin of our own British culture, why should we have to change our rules to accommodate other people who want to settle in this country, I'm sorry but its time we said enough is enough

cashman · 08-05-2009, 11:14

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Tolerance costs nothing.

it don't n it begins with tolerating the customs n laws of the country you choose to live in.

entwisi · 08-05-2009, 11:45

I know a few British Hindu's, so how is religion linked to nationality exactly? The fact that we have some silly laws in this country based on religion shows that - e.g. catholics not allowed to become Monarch. Where and when did catholisism become so dangerous that we can't have one as King/Queen?

Why did Tony Blair feel he had to be CofE whilst PM but as soon as he was free of that shackle he became Catholic straight away?

This request nothing to do with "British" culture and all to do with Religious tolerance.

Cashy, laws are transient and subject to change hence this guys attempts to do so and in that attempt I happen to support him. Based on the fact that he is prepared to consider other peoples views and make it as invisible to those who don't want to know about it as he can he is being tolerant of those people why can't they be tolerant of him?

cashman · 08-05-2009, 11:49

i disagree ian, i lived abroad n never considered asking the spanish to change their ways, though i strongly disagree wi some of em, simply put it was their country their rules n customs, i chose to live there.

entwisi · 08-05-2009, 11:57

But you were "English" living in Spain, not "Spanish" as this guy is "British" living in "Britain" its a different ball game

Royboy39 · 08-05-2009, 12:16

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Originally Posted by entwisi

But you were "English" living in Spain, not "Spanish" as this guy is "British" living in "Britain" its a different ball game

OK this 'Brit' challenged the law as we are all entitled to do and lost.

Gayle · 08-05-2009, 13:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Not it doesn't entwisi, but every time we give way its just another nail in the coffin of our own British culture, why should we have to change our rules to accommodate other people who want to settle in this country, I'm sorry but its time we said enough is enough

I don't get how this is changing your rules and culture to accommodate other people.

People go on about this sort of stuff all the time - how it's diminishing our culture or our religion. It's NOT! They're not asking you to have a burial pyre at your funeral, they're asking if they can. They're not asking you to change your religion, they're just asking if they can practise their own. They're not taking away from your culture, only you can do that.

cashman · 08-05-2009, 14:07

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Originally Posted by entwisi

But you were "English" living in Spain, not "Spanish" as this guy is "British" living in "Britain" its a different ball game

i disagree as i took residencia out, i doubt very much if that guy had/has applied to become a british citizen, what he seeks to do is abhorrent to many "British Citizens" n also illegal, strange i think fer once the powers that be have gone with what i perceive to be public opinion n you don't like it.

entwisi · 08-05-2009, 14:42

He's been here since the 1970s according to the article......

cashman · 08-05-2009, 15:06

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Originally Posted by entwisi

He's been here since the 1970s according to the article......

yeh has he applied fer british citizenship?

yerself · 08-05-2009, 15:24

Never mind bonfires. Have you seen what they're complaining about now?

Queen’s Trinity Cross honour deemed unlawful by Privy Council - Times Online

jaysay · 08-05-2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by entwisi

But you were "English" living in Spain, not "Spanish" as this guy is "British" living in "Britain" its a different ball game

No it isn't Ian sorry, people who came to live in this country and have a family, know what the rules are, irrespective of being born here. Hinduism ain't a native religion of Britain, we now have literally dozens and dozens of different nationalities living here, with many different religions, do we have to kowtow to everyone's religious wishes, its a matter of them adjusting to our laws not us changing ours to suite every body else's needs, and there's always the answer, we have airports all over the country within in easy access

Gayle · 08-05-2009, 16:25

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Originally Posted by cashman

i disagree as i took residencia out, i doubt very much if that guy had/has applied to become a british citizen, what he seeks to do is abhorrent to many "British Citizens" n also illegal, strange i think fer once the powers that be have gone with what i perceive to be public opinion n you don't like it.

You may have lived in Spain but did you live life exactly like a Spaniard. Did you eat Paella every night, did you go to Catholic Mass every week, did you speak Spanish day in day out?

I'm not saying you should have to do those things just because you were in Spain, btw. What I'm saying is that everyone is capable of holding on to their own identity and their own culture wherever they live in the world. Just because one person wishes to uphold his culture doesn't dilute anybody elses culture or beliefs.