This sums up our justice system to the full - Page 4

andrewb · 23-12-2009, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

So, you want to leave the EU, but you're a member of a political party that wants to carry on in the EU? Oh well, I suppose it makes sense to you!

There isn't a political party that I agree with on every issue. A party system exists for like minded people to come together.. doesn't mean I have to agree on every issue.

Neil · 23-12-2009, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Eric

And what do you pay these friendly girls of yours

When we have finished of course. Do you have to pay cash up front in Canada?

Neil · 23-12-2009, 23:46

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Originally Posted by andrewb

You know a referendum on Lisbon after it's implemented is a complete waste of time and money.

No it is not. It could be a "Do you want to pull out of Europe" referendum.

At least they would know what the public want then they could ignore us like every other party does.

andrewb · 23-12-2009, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Neil

No it is not. It could be a "Do you want to pull out of Europe" referendum.

At least they would know what the public want then they could ignore us like every other party does.

Well yes it is. You suggest a different referendum which I agree we should have... but I was specifically talking about the Lisbon treaty referendum being a waste of time and money now it's implemented.

Eric · 24-12-2009, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Neil

When we have finished of course. Do you have to pay cash up front in Canada?

In Canada we have to debate whether payment is a Provincial or Federal responsibility

Neil · 24-12-2009, 00:30

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Well yes it is. You suggest a different referendum which I agree we should have... but I was specifically talking about the Lisbon treaty referendum being a waste of time and money now it's implemented.

The Lisbon treaty one would not be a waste on money either. It would prove if the current Government were wrong to sign it and the Tories (if they get in) could make the required steps to un sign it.

andrewb · 24-12-2009, 01:03

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Originally Posted by Neil

The Lisbon treaty one would not be a waste on money either. It would prove if the current Government were wrong to sign it and the Tories (if they get in) could make the required steps to un sign it.

They can't unsign it without the agreement of the other 26 countries. Previous to it being implemented the current government could quite easily have not signed it which would have prevented it from ever going into force. We can however pull out without the need of an agreement which is why we should have a referendum on EU membership.

steeljack · 24-12-2009, 02:02

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Originally Posted by andrewb

They can't unsign it without the agreement of the other 26 countries. .

So what you are actually saying is that H.Ms Govt. has its hands tied by the Slovakians and the Slovenians (wonder how many UK voters can find these places on a map) , or maybe the elected Politicians agree that its a good thing that places like Latvia , Lithuania , Estonia and Roumania (places that have had a democratic tradition for less than 10 years) and still have the old communist guard in control can dictate public policy for the UK .

accyman · 24-12-2009, 02:44

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Originally Posted by Neil

No it is not. It could be a "Do you want to pull out of Europe" referendum.

At least they would know what the public want then they could ignore us like every other party does.

or do it the old fashioned way and riot until our govenment gets a set of balls and tells teh EU to screw themselves

dont see why not it worked with teh poll tax

you cant speak with a vote any nore it just dosnt work simply because we dont even get one , unelected primeminister , no referendum and our freedom of speech gagged into almost utter silence

now i sound like iv been joining mancie on teh booze lol

Eric · 24-12-2009, 03:33

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Originally Posted by accyman

or do it the old fashioned way and riot until our govenment gets a set of balls and tells teh EU to screw themselves

dont see why not it worked with teh poll tax

you cant speak with a vote any nore it just dosnt work simply because we dont even get one , unelected primeminister , no referendum and our freedom of speech gagged into almost utter silence

now i sound like iv been joining mancie on teh booze lol

Of course you can speak with a vote ... in 1993 in Canada, the tories were reduced from a maority in parliament to just two seats ... the vote does work if people are po'd enought.

Boeing Guy · 24-12-2009, 04:47

Accyman, you may have a point there.....

Wynonie, I have never ever been a member of any Political party and have no intention of doing so. Yes I am a Capitalist so that makes me right wing, but the mess that the country is in, do you really think that it can be allowed to continue?
I don't particularly like Dave, I preferred Hague, but I will not vote for the shower we have in at the moment and I will be exercising my power to vote.

Wynonie Harris · 24-12-2009, 08:33

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Originally Posted by andrewb

There isn't a political party that I agree with on every issue. A party system exists for like minded people to come together.. doesn't mean I have to agree on every issue.

Yes, I suppose a minor issue over whether the UK should remain an independent country or not isn't really worth falling out over.

Personally, I'm with Accyman on the barricades!

garinda · 24-12-2009, 09:17

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Originally Posted by LYNX1

Might be a better person after the brain damage IMHO...........

It seems not, as he's been on a crime spree since the attack, but now it seems he's free from any future prosecution.

Nice work if you can get it.

Perhaps he's secretly become a M.P.

'The burglar left 'brain damaged' by a victim used his injuries to escape conviction for a subsequent crime spree, it emerged yesterday.
Walid Salem, 57, first avoided prison for burglary when millionaire Munir Hussain was jailed for beating him with a cricket bat.'

'Yesterday it was revealed the serial criminal was accused of committing more offences after he had recovered.'

'However, he received an absolute discharge for those because he was deemed unfit to plead.'

'The case last night prompted claims that Salem had effectively been given 'a licence to commit crime'.'

Read more: New let-off for 'brain damaged' burglar who got a decent man sent to jail | Mail Online

accyman · 24-12-2009, 11:31

it looks like this " hes got a problem " has now spread to adults, not only is it kids getting off with crimes because they have "problems" but now adults can claim they have problems and get away with crime

this crooks brain dammage cant be that bad if its allowing him to carry on with his life of crime

accyman · 24-12-2009, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Personally, I'm with Accyman on the barricades!

oh great now i have somone in agreement i will probably get done for inciting to riot but notto worry i will claim i have brain damage which shoudlnt be too hard to pull off and walk away free