three children

[Margaret Pilkington]

Well, I'm sorry if I misread your intentions Tin Monkey.......I thought you were implying that the murder of children by their parents, who then claimed mental instability, was a game.

And Blazey, this woman could be suffering from a very well recognised condition called 'post natal depression/psychosis' and I would have thought you at least would have had a little more sensitivity to the situation. You disappoint me.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Well, I'm sorry if I misread your intentions Tin Monkey.......I thought you were implying that the murder of children by their parents, who then claimed mental instability, was a game.

And Blazey, this woman could be suffering from a very well recognised condition called 'post natal depression/psychosis' and I would have thought you at least would have had a little more sensitivity to the situation. You disappoint me.

Yes I am fully aware of what she could have been suffering from, my point was against what tin monkey was saying, and that was that the defences of diminished responsibility and insanity are not 'playing the game' or an easy way out of a prison sentence at all.

Yes I made the mistake of suggesting she HAS killed her children, from what I briefly read in the sun on passing glance it was clear that the parents are indeed involved in some way though, and either of them could be suffering from ill health. I was simply annoyed at tin monkeys post. I actually feel sorry for the family, but obviously that doesn't come across when you are reading into what I say as you would prefer it to sound, and we never want me to sound nice and caring do we.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Tin Monkey was referring to the media hype. The way the papers immediately jump on a story from the worst angle possible.

It now appears that the father wasn't even in the house when the stabbings took place and yet many people were ready to blame him in the beginning and jumping on an "Asian honour killing" bandwagon because the family are from Sri Lanka.

I was intrigued by mention of the fact that the mother had blood on her back.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Blazey, it would good if you could occaisonally show a softer side....one that appears to be less judgmental, and a little more sympathetic to people who are in the throes of what must be a very traumatic situation.....but just be yourself...I can live with that.

[panther]

If this woman was depressed then why hasnt the health visitor picked up on this?
surely she must have sensed something

[AccyLass]

This is her 3rd child aint it?

Health Visitor will have visited for about a week after the child was born, unless asked to visit longer, so if there is something wrong with the woman, there might not have been when a health visitor was seeing them

[Margaret Pilkington]

The lady in question is reported to have little command of english...and the scoring scheme is easy to see through and give the answers that represent good mental health...perhaps the post natal psychoses has only just manifested itself...it isn't always something that comes on as soon as the baby is born.

[emamum]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The lady in question is reported to have little command of english...and the scoring scheme is easy to see through and give the answers that represent good mental health...perhaps the post natal psychoses has only just manifested itself...it isn't always something that comes on as soon as the baby is born.

the edingurgh scale? thats very easy to lie on... there must be a better system they can use.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes, that is the one...and I'm not aware of any other scoring tool for PND/PNP.