Today's EU question: how would you vote? - Page 5

garinda · 24-10-2011, 22:54

I was warned before the Election that he was ruthlessly ambitous, by those he'd worked with, and walked over, in the Labour party.

Arrogantly dismissing their experience over his determination, to go far.

It's always wise to rember that old maxim.

Be careful who you tread on, on the way up. There's a chance you'll see them on the way down.

garinda · 24-10-2011, 22:56

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Originally Posted by cashman

When yeh look at this a little deeper, what the majority of MPs are saying is- They regard the British Public "Too Stupid" to know whats best fer em,

i sincerly hope people aint that stupid,they forget this night!

You can tell 'em how stupid you are.

When they come a knockin', just before the next election.

garinda · 24-10-2011, 23:01

Perhaps we should stick a Peoples' Candidate representing Accy Web in the next General Election.

So as to split the vote.

I bet we'd do better than Rev. Kev and the Holy Rollers did.

Hell, l bet we could muster enough support to keep our deposit.

BERNADETTE · 24-10-2011, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Obviously from the tone of Graham Jones's merry little quips on twitter he feels it's a good night's work. Ingratiated himself with his political masters and scored a few cheap points against the Tories. Job done.

I would suggest that there will be consequences for him and others further down the line. When our rulers in Brussels have forced us to provide a full range of benefits to any EU citizen who pitches up here whether or not they've worked in or have any connection with this country and this is allied with an expansion to take in a number of Eastern European states, anti-EU sentiment will be on the rise. And people will not forget this night's work from Mr Jones and his ilk.

Sorry Steve but has that not been happening for the last god knows how many years? Or have I been reading it wrong? Why are folks so desperate to move here when things are so bad? Oh yeah our benefits system is laughable

MargaretR · 24-10-2011, 23:31

Maybe you should know the view taken by conspiracy theorists

The top politicians in all European countries are 'obliged'

to comply with the long term planning towards the New World Order (world government). United States of Europe is a step towards that end.

So their attempts to salvage the sinking ship of the EU is understandable.
They all have had 'offers that can't be refused'

The real control is in the hands of the Rothschild dynasty - the bwankers.

garinda · 25-10-2011, 00:45

The full list of the brave men and women who voted in favour of their constituents' rights, rather than their own political ambitions, within their parties.

Full list of MPs who voted against the EU referendum | Politics | The Guardian

Graham Jones isn't amongst them.

Well done to those who ignored their puppet master's warning.

As for the rest.

Shame on you!

Eric · 25-10-2011, 00:48

Been reading a lot of what the British press is saying about this bs ... what a bunch of arrogant bastards those politicians are! What total disregard for what the British people think .... Labour as bad as, if not worse than the suppositories ...

garinda · 25-10-2011, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Eric

Been reading a lot of what the British press is saying about this bs ... what a bunch of arrogant bastards those politicians are! What total disregard for what the British people think .... Labour as bad as, if not worse than the suppositories ...

Exactly.

Labour are crowing, saying the Tories are split.

It's even more depressing that there were so few Labour M.P.'s prepared to do the right thing.

They just come across as mindless morons, with no credibilty at all, but they're too stuck up their own arrogant arses to see that.

There are no winners tonight, only losers.

The people of this country lost.

Lost the chance for their voice to be heard.

Eric · 25-10-2011, 05:09

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Originally Posted by garinda

Exactly.

Labour are crowing, saying the Tories are split.

It's even more depressing that there were so few Labour M.P.'s prepared to do the right thing.

They just come across as mindless morons, with no credibilty at all, but they're too stuck up their own arrogant arses to see that.

There are no winners tonight, only losers.

The people of this country lost.

Lost the chance for their voice to be heard.

I don't believe that it is the last chance for change ... this thing isn't just going to go gently anywhere soon ... the worms are out of the can; the fecal matter has intersected with the swiftly spinning object; the egg man has ... well, you get the picture, as I see it anyway. What surprises me is that Labour seems to be treating the whole thing as a matter of petty political posturing. The only politicians who are acting out of princple are many tory backbenchers

garinda · 25-10-2011, 05:32

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Originally Posted by Eric

I don't believe that it is the last chance for change ... this thing isn't just going to go gently anywhere soon ... the worms are out of the can; the fecal matter has intersected with the swiftly spinning object; the egg man has ... well, you get the picture, as I see it anyway. What surprises me is that Labour seems to be treating the whole thing as a matter of petty political posturing. The only politicians who are acting out of princple are many tory backbenchers

You're right.

One battle down, but the fight for people to have their opinions counted is still on.

Swelled by even more people now, after the shameful attack on democracy we witnessed yesterday.

The idiots in the Labour party are gleefully twittering that what happened has split the Tory party.

Little realising there's another split.

The whole of the Labour party, with the majority in the rest of the country.

cashman · 25-10-2011, 07:20

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Originally Posted by garinda

You're right.

One battle down, but the fight for people to have their opinions counted is still on.

Swelled by even more people now, after the shameful attack on democracy we witnessed yesterday.

The idiots in the Labour party are gleefully twittering that what happened has split the Tory party.

Little realising there's another split.

The whole of the Labour party, with the majority in the rest of the country.

The twittering to my mind is a way of insulting those people that had the balls to "Represent Their Constituents", summat those twittering were too spineless to do.! n if they think people cannot see through this,then stupid as well as spineless,fits my description.

andrewb · 25-10-2011, 07:52

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Originally Posted by andrewb

About 80 Tory's voted for it and about 18 Labour I think. Official figures/which way individuals voted will be available tomorrow.

Wasn't far off. 81 Tory, 19 Labour, 1 Lib Dem.

Wynonie Harris · 25-10-2011, 07:56

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Sorry Steve but has that not been happening for the last god knows how many years? Or have I been reading it wrong? Why are folks so desperate to move here when things are so bad? Oh yeah our benefits system is laughable

No, Bernie, there are some restrictions on benefits claimed by EU citizens moving here including a "right to reside" test. This is in danger of being swept away in a move which it is estimated will cost us mugs an extra £2.5 billion a year.

Brussels threatens to sue Britain to let in 'benefit tourists' - Telegraph

Remember that when Graham Jones comes asking for your vote at the next election.

garinda · 25-10-2011, 08:16

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Wasn't far off. 81 Tory, 19 Labour, 1 Lib Dem.

I notice Andrew Percy was one of the rebels, whose office you work for.

Good on him.

garinda · 25-10-2011, 08:20

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

No, Bernie, there are some restrictions on benefits claimed by EU citizens moving here including a "right to reside" test. This is in danger of being swept away in a move which it is estimated will cost us mugs an extra £2.5 billion a year.

Brussels threatens to sue Britain to let in 'benefit tourists' - Telegraph

Remember that when Graham Jones comes asking for your vote at the next election.

Anyone from the Labour party is free to p.m. me for my address.

They can help save the rain forests by not posting anyihing through my door, and also save themselves getting a massive headache, as I'd loudly tell them where they can go.