Tony Blair Mark Two. - Page 6

garinda · 24-05-2007, 23:05

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Originally Posted by thindle

Three cheers for Tony Blair. Hip, Hip Hurrah ETC.

Should that not be two cheers?

As one of your quoted hips is on a list, waiting for a replacement.

Ianto.W. · 24-05-2007, 23:08

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Originally Posted by garinda

Should that not be two cheers?

As one of your quoted hips is on a list, waiting for a replacement.

NHo garinda i'm waiting for new ar***e replacement Do you want to stand in till I get one.

garinda · 24-05-2007, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

NHo garinda i'm waiting for new ar***e replacement Do you want to stand in till I get one.

Are you in BUPA?

Send me your credit card details, and I'm yours.

Ianto.W. · 24-05-2007, 23:26

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Originally Posted by garinda

Are you in BUPA?

Send me your credit card details, and I'm yours.

I'm in the system gary and I am anybody's, I had that lovely lady from the NHS round this morning, What a nice person ,she was called a disabilaty assesment person 'I think' the gear arrives tomorrow, no need for BUPA they can't hold a candle to our Health Service, waste of money in my humble opinion.

cashman · 24-05-2007, 23:28

i,ll second that a complete waste of money.

garinda · 24-05-2007, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

I'm in the system gary and I am anybody's, I had that lovely lady from the NHS round this morning, What a nice person ,she was called a disabilaty assesment person 'I think' the gear arrives tomorrow, no need for BUPA they can't hold a candle to our Health Service, waste of money in my humble opinion.

Well since you are happy with the NHS, and refuse to pay the going rate, I'm unable to be your arsehole.

Ianto.W. · 25-05-2007, 00:10

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Originally Posted by garinda

Well since you are happy with the NHS, and refuse to pay the going rate, I'm unable to be your arsehole.

When The'll have me gary I'll have them. I cant even get holiday insurance never mind BUPA.

bullseyebarb · 25-05-2007, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Billcat

I was not talking about the Federal government specifically.

Home schooling is growing, in large part, because there are folks who wish their kids to remain ignorant on certain subjects, such as evolution.

No, but I was......as I believe my previous comments made perfectly clear.

Your take on home schooling is way behind the times. Initially, it was parents of strong religious conviction who chose this method of education. Nowadays, it's across the board. And if you'd bother to check, you would find that home schooled kids test extremely well and are better prepared for college.

bullseyebarb · 25-05-2007, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

We are all now speaking with benefit of hindsight, the outcome of these conflicts will be the judge of both Dubya Bush and Tony Blairs foreign policies.As regard to local education and other day to day problems these really are the remit of the appointed ministers and the Mandarins, yes at the end of the day the leader is ultimatley responsible. In my opinion the education system of our country is a shambles, I cannot speak for the USA or any other country. The basic three 'R's are not the primary subjects anymore, the teaching of basic English has first to be taught, as the families of some immigrants cannot, or do not teach their siblings English, but the language of their country of birth. Thus we have a situation where if you are trapped in an area where you are a minority, amongst immigrants through poverty or circumstances your children will be held back whilst the others 'cach up', this time can never be given back as it is to late, the end product is semi illiteracy. I am not a racist this is just common sense, this is why you have 'Ghetto's', a prime example are the two schools where I received my primary education and secondary education, Spring Hill and Hyndburn Park Schools. 99.9% Asian. This has got to be said painfull or not!

I agree with you, Ian. But with or without the immigration question, the schools are still not offering the same sort of rigorous education that you and I received. My sister, who teaches in the Midlands, is retiring in July after more than 30 years. All of the joy of teaching went by the wayside some time ago and she has had more than enough. She is not alone. The system is losing so many of it's good, well trained people.

spinner · 25-05-2007, 16:46

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

The system is losing so many of it's good, well trained people.

its true some of the so called teachers that i know are very poorly educated and thick too. one teacher i know failed her gcses several times and had to retake her maths gcse 4 times! she needed the maths gcse to indicate she did have some sort of brain. it was essential to the teaching course. did they bother that she had to retake it so many times to pass? nocause they know people just dont want to teach anymore so the half wits are left to take the jobs.

garinda · 25-05-2007, 18:12

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Originally Posted by spinner

its true some of the so called teachers that i know are very poorly educated and thick too. one teacher i know failed her gcses several times and had to retake her maths gcse 4 times! she needed the maths gcse to indicate she did have some sort of brain. it was essential to the teaching course. did they bother that she had to retake it so many times to pass? nocause they know people just dont want to teach anymore so the half wits are left to take the jobs.

In fact you need more qualifications to teach today then you ever did in the past. You are right, you do need GSCE Maths, but you also need a degree, ot a post-grad teaching qualification, to enter the profession. Something that wasn't prerequisite in the past.

Miss Moore, former Head of Rhyddings didn't have a degree.

bullseyebarb · 25-05-2007, 18:41

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Originally Posted by garinda

Miss Moore, former Head of Rhyddings didn't have a degree.

And I'll bet Miss Moore was better educated! If what my sister says is true about the current crop of incoming teachers, perhaps the standards at teachers' training colleges have been lowered significantly. The newbies at her school apparently leave a lot to be desired.

Ianto.W. · 25-05-2007, 21:58

As you all know life is not about pieces of paper that proffess what or what not you are capable of, it is a hands on profession, some can and some cant do and undo the nuts and bolts, but have the paper work that say they can. All I know is that teaching used to be like the legal profession sons/ daughters followed fathers/mothers into the job thus already forearmed with what and how to handle a class of students. Children then were just as unruly and mischeavous in my day as they are now nothing changes human nature, I mighn't just add that the classes were well in excess of 40 as there was a population boom after WW2, so there is really no excuse for illiteracy with todays school leavers.

garinda · 25-05-2007, 22:15

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

And I'll bet Miss Moore was better educated! If what my sister says is true about the current crop of incoming teachers, perhaps the standards at teachers' training colleges have been lowered significantly. The newbies at her school apparently leave a lot to be desired.

According to my mum the majority of teachers at Rhyddings in the 1950's, were a collection of numskulls and perverts. Happily that is not the case today.

bullseyebarb · 27-05-2007, 19:54

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Originally Posted by garinda

According to my mum the majority of teachers at Rhyddings in the 1950's, were a collection of numskulls and perverts. Happily that is not the case today.

Your mother's opinions, along with those of my sister, are purely anecdotal. The proof is in the pudding. Which generation was better educated and more prepared for life? Time will tell.