Tories to raise council tax by 7 per cent (LT)

g jones · 12-02-2009, 16:00

Lancashire Telegraph

from LT

The rise by Hyndburn Borough Council would be significantly higher than council tax rises from Lancashire Police Authority, which has plans for a four per cent rise, or Lancashire County Council’s part of the bill, which is set to be a 2.9 per cent rise.

Leader of the council, Coun Peter Britcliffe said the council would be working hard over the next two weeks to bring the figure under five percent and blamed (made up stories that) cuts in funding from central Government.

Less · 12-02-2009, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

Lancashire Telegraph

from LT

The rise by Hyndburn Borough Council would be significantly higher than council tax rises from Lancashire Police Authority, which has plans for a four per cent rise, or Lancashire County Council’s part of the bill, which is set to be a 2.9 per cent rise.

Leader of the council, Coun Peter Britcliffe said the council would be working hard over the next two weeks to bring the figure under five percent and blamed (made up stories that) cuts in funding from central Government.

Now Graham, if it's made up could you give us a link to prove it, otherwise you are no better than any other rumour monger.

Lilly · 12-02-2009, 16:32

Is this not already being discussed / argued about in another thread at the moment?

yerself · 12-02-2009, 17:04

Here's an extract from the 'Telegraph' article that councillor Jones chose not to show us:

Although the overall bill would see a rise of 3.66 per cent for tax payers

jaysay · 12-02-2009, 17:20

The County Part is only 2.9% this year as its county elections in May, if they retain control, which is very unlikely, they will do what they usually do, bump it up next year, plus there's a hell of a difference on 7% of 17% of the whole sum than 2.9% of 83% of the whole sum

blazey · 12-02-2009, 17:27

God forbid we contribute to keeping our streets safe, clean and well lit.
Maybe we should just cut back on street lighting instead. Or maybe have monthly bin collections.

Taggy · 12-02-2009, 17:55

Sounds like a hell of a mandate that...have you got the time to stand for election!! Lol!!

Best Regards - Taggy

blazey · 12-02-2009, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Taggy

Sounds like a hell of a mandate that...have you got the time to stand for election!! Lol!!

Best Regards - Taggy

I wish

but if I got involved in politics it would be in Lancaster anyway as I'm part of the Lancaster CLP.

I've been told I should go into politics by someone who was at the receiving end of one of my discussions about law. Apparently I have the honesty and the passion to win people over

'Honest' law students... the world must be going mad.

Taggy · 12-02-2009, 18:18

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Originally Posted by blazey

I wish

but if I got involved in politics it would be in Lancaster anyway as I'm part of the Lancaster CLP.

I've been told I should go into politics by someone who was at the receiving end of one of my discussions about law. Apparently I have the honesty and the passion to win people over

'Honest' law students... the world must be going mad.

Well i must admit, honesty in Politics would be a novel approach Blazey, at least when most of our current exponents major in Bullcrap!!

Best Regards - Taggy

blazey · 12-02-2009, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Taggy

Well i must admit, honesty in Politics would be a novel approach Blazey, at least when most of our current exponents major in Bullcrap!!

Best Regards - Taggy

I don't think a good politician could ever be 'honest' to be truthful, just like a lawyer couldn't really be entirely honest and still good at their job.

Sometimes honesty is the best policy but most of the time it really isn't! I cause more upset when I'm honest than when I'm lying.

panther · 12-02-2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by blazey

God forbid we contribute to keeping our streets safe, clean and well lit.
Maybe we should just cut back on street lighting instead. Or maybe have monthly bin collections.

WE????

blazey · 12-02-2009, 18:40

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Originally Posted by panther

WE????

Good point I suppose, I don't pay council tax, but I pay enough bloody VAT on stuff for uni that goes to the EU and that gets pumped back into the British economy.

So I feel I pay my fair share to society. Just like I pay my fair contributions to NHS and so on.

Plus I'll probably end up paying far more than most people in taxes if I end up with a good job after my degree, so it all ends up being paid and I personally have no problem with that.

Eric · 12-02-2009, 18:44

Hey ... soemething I'm familiar with ... City Council bs at budget time

And the laying off of the blame for increases on the Provincial and Federal govts. (substitute "County Council" and "Central Government") .... the only thing we don't have is the Party bickering at the local level ... and it's something we can keep on doing without

andrewb · 12-02-2009, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

Lancashire Telegraph

from LT

The rise by Hyndburn Borough Council would be significantly higher than council tax rises from Lancashire Police Authority, which has plans for a four per cent rise, or Lancashire County Council’s part of the bill, which is set to be a 2.9 per cent rise.

Leader of the council, Coun Peter Britcliffe said the council would be working hard over the next two weeks to bring the figure under five percent and blamed (made up stories that) cuts in funding from central Government.

Could you please inform us of how much the fire authority, and police authorities part of council tax has gone up in the last 10 years? I think you'll find its a lot more than our council. As of last year Hyndburns part had gone up just 45%, much lower than the 100% national average.

You see, you should probably drop the outrageous claims you make on taxation, you're wrong. We don't have the most expensive council. Why not just find something else to trip the tories up on. Meanwhile they'll continue to deliver services at a good price.

If you want to know which are the most expensive have a look here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1899...uncil-tax.html

Do note Hyndburn is not on the list.

claytonender · 13-02-2009, 00:23

I copied this information from South Ribble's website, it shows how much Government grant each non unitary Authority had received in financial year 2007/08, 2008/09, 2009/10 and 2010/11 the cash increase each year

Grant Settlement Cash Increase
2007/8 2008/9 2009/10 2010/11 2008/9 2009/10 2010/11
£'m £'m £'m £'m £'m £'m £'m

LANCASHIRE
Burnley 11.574 11.767 11.826 11.885 0.193 0.059 0.059
Chorley 8.008 8.221 8.358 8.487 0.212 0.137 0.129
Fylde 5.456 5.600 5.719 5.859 0.144 0.119 0.140
Hyndburn 9.651 9.899 10.052 10.172 0.249 0.153 0.119

Lancaster 14.932 15.523 15.994 16.377 0.591 0.471 0.383
Pendle 10.604 10.868 11.018 11.125 0.264 0.149 0.107
Preston 15.591 15.823 15.902 15.981 0.232 0.079 0.080
Ribble Valley 3.714 3.859 3.997 4.142 0.145 0.137 0.145

Rossendale 6.109 6.208 6.239 6.270 0.099 0.031 0.031
South Ribble 7.218 7.384 7.464 7.534 0.166 0.080 0.070
West Lancashire9.304 9.456 9.503 9.559 0.152 0.047 0.056
Wyre 9.459 9.816 10.132 10.438 0.356 0.316 0.306

Increase in Formula Grant – Year on Year

2008/09 2009/10 20010/11
% % %
Overall 3.5% 2.8% 2.6%
Metropolitan districts 3.7% 2.9% 2.6%
Unitaries 4.8% 3.4% 3.0%
County Councils 5.2% 4.2% 4.1%
Shire Districts 1.7% 1.4% 1.3%
South Ribble Borough Council 1.5% 1.1% 0.9%

the link to this South Ribble Borough Council | Press releases

and see page 3 of the report.

The only councils getting more than Hyndburn (for 2009/10) are Lancaster £15.994m, Preston £15.902m Burnley £11.826m Pendle £11.018m and Wyre £10.132m.

In addition to this Hyndburn will be receiving £8.73 from Elevate for Housing Market Renewal