tough on crime tough on the causes of crime

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Quite agree, Ken, but I'm sure your right on, progressive socialist comrades in Hyndburn Labour Party must cringe with embarrassment when they read stuff like this. What say you, Claytonender?

Can you imagine any councillor having an opinion of their own that allows for a degree of autonomous thought within a cohesive collective? It'd be the end of civilisation as we know it.

Derriere primed......

Boot primed......

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Can you imagine any councillor having an opinion of their own that allows for a degree of autonomous thought within a cohesive collective? It'd be the end of civilisation as we know it.

Derriere primed......

Boot primed......

This autonomous thought malarky is all very well, but you're not supposed to start acting like Alf Garnett. Never mind, I won't snitch on you to Comrade Harriet and the re-education of class enemies committee.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

This autonomous thought malarky is all very well, but you're not supposed to start acting like Alf Garnett. Never mind, I won't snitch on you to Comrade Harriet and the re-education of class enemies committee.

I'm fairly sure they won't lock me in a room, Clockwork Orange-style, with a loop of Tony Blair's best speeches.

At least I'm fairly sure.....

I'm pleased to say that Miles Parkinson is far from dictatorial and openly welcomes differing views in order to get the best from the group, it makes him very approachable when submitting new ideas.

Until I become commandant of Rishton stalag I don't think he has any need of worry on this one.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I'm pleased to say that Miles Parkinson is far from dictatorial and openly welcomes differing views in order to get the best from the group, it makes him very approachable when submitting new ideas.

Well, you just try that "prisons are like holiday camps" line and see where it gets you. Or perhaps your "they're trying to stop us celebrating St George's Day" approach. You'll have your comrades choking on their fairtrade coffee!!

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Well, you just try that "prisons are like holiday camps" line and see where it gets you. Or perhaps your "they're trying to stop us celebrating St George's Day" approach. You'll have your comrades choking on their fairtrade coffee!!

There are ways of addressing things but denying that they go on doesn't help anyone. However, having had a first-hand warning from a brewery rep several years ago for my 'xenophobic' St George's Day quiz night I'm afraid I'm still smarting over England's national day!

Regarding prisons, I do know that the cost of incarcerating each prisoner is more than I earn in two years, possibly three, and that doesn't really make economic sense to me. The standard of living is also fairly high for something which many would hope to be both punishment and deterrent and the first problem I would address is the seemingly easy availability of drugs on the inside.

Fortunately, I am not well-acquainted with the inside of Her Majesty's prisons but decrying the level of punishment on the basis of breaching human rights rather negates the whole idea of being punished!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

There are ways of addressing things but denying that they go on doesn't help anyone. However, having had a first-hand warning from a brewery rep several years ago for my 'xenophobic' St George's Day quiz night I'm afraid I'm still smarting over England's national day!

Regarding prisons, I do know that the cost of incarcerating each prisoner is more than I earn in two years, possibly three, and that doesn't really make economic sense to me. The standard of living is also fairly high for something which many would hope to be both punishment and deterrent and the first problem I would address is the seemingly easy availability of drugs on the inside.

Fortunately, I am not well-acquainted with the inside of Her Majesty's prisons but decrying the level of punishment on the basis of breaching human rights rather negates the whole idea of being punished!

Thats what I like about you Ken, when state your own views on things like this you couldn't get a rizla between thee and me

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Thats what I like about you Ken, when state your own views on things like this you couldn't get a rizla between thee and me

“So, comrade Moss, it has come to light that you share the views of that right-wing, Daily Mail-reading running dog, capitalist, imperialist lackey, Jaysay. Your ideological unsoundness runs deeper than we thought. Radical steps may be required to purge you of your bourgeois tendencies. I’m sure comrade Harman can think of something suitable.”

[Ken Moss]

'For you, Kenny, ze campaign is over!'

Good grief, it's beginning to sound like the council is run like some sort of dictatorship where one man exercises his will over those in his control.

Such things do not happen in Hyndburn....

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

'For you, Kenny, ze campaign is over!'

Good grief, it's beginning to sound like the council is run like some sort of dictatorship where one man exercises his will over those in his control.

Such things do not happen in Hyndburn....

Nicely switched, Ken. We'll make a politician of you yet!

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Nicely switched, Ken. We'll make a politician of you yet!

It's these local issues, you see....

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

It's these local issues, you see....

For want of a better word Bollards

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

“So, comrade Moss, it has come to light that you share the views of that right-wing, Daily Mail-reading running dog, capitalist, imperialist lackey, Jaysay. Your ideological unsoundness runs deeper than we thought. Radical steps may be required to purge you of your bourgeois tendencies. I’m sure comrade Harman can think of something suitable.”

I think your wonderful to Wyn

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by jaysay

For want of a better word Bollards

Too slow matey, got the one on Cliff Street sorted just before New Year!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Too slow matey, got the one on Cliff Street sorted just before New Year!

Ya posted that without a smiley

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya posted that without a smiley

I wasn't smiling moving the sodding thing off the pavement and out of the way, nearly ruptured myself!

Thankfully, years of research in local alehouses have given me the guts to do the job properly....