Tough Policing - Page 5

lindsay ormerod · 04-05-2005, 12:55

You would have thought so Cashman;given that the Papers being interested would only widen the circle of potential voters he was trying to reach....maybe there's something else here that we aren't privy too.

lindsay ormerod · 04-05-2005, 13:01

On the subject that Ccllr Jones was talking about before his change of heart;on the spot penalties for offenders;a security guard in the Town Centre yesterday caught a well known shop lifter in action.He retreived the stolen goods and waited for the Police to arrive from Blackburn[!].The shoplifter was given an on the spot £80 fine;which she paid immediately and was back out on Broadway again in less than 10 mins! How on earth is that a deterrent???

cashman · 04-05-2005, 15:28

it isn't a deterant just means she will have to put some OVERTIME in retailers beware.lol

lindsay ormerod · 04-05-2005, 15:37

Exactly,and had no difficulty in handing over the £80 there and then;obviously had a profitable morning helping herself in Accrington's stores.

Graham Jones · 06-05-2005, 19:38

1) There are a lot of people with racist tendancies on here in my view.

2) I have been away and then when I cam back the General Election took over.

3) I wrote the piece in 'pub talk' and it was to be edited as the press are after the full story [thanks to someone with no respect on this site] and thats where things get get distorted if your not careful. Just not had time to edit it.

4) I think the loony left posting was a disgrace. The Lib Dems have even posted a membership form through my letterbox.

5) Labour won the GE/Labour needs to 'revaluate' the result Tony!

6) Labour held off the Tories at County Hall with a margin of 5 [from 8] and in Hyndburn there was a Labour landslide. Labour increasing majorties in 4 of the 6 seats, winning all 6, PB got stuffed alongside his predictions in Ossy.

7) Just to cheer up 'all our yesterdays crowd', Cabinet are to give the Panopticon project the green light next week as outlined in a two page report.

8) 'The Voice of Reason'... well the BNP got 4% in Hyndburn. UKIP lost their deposit and racists were kicked into touch.

Off to the pub ...

Uncle Mick · 06-05-2005, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones

.7) Just to cheer up 'all our yesterdays crowd', Cabinet are to give the Panopticon project the green light next week as outlined in a two page report.

Welcome back, Graham. No wonder they did`nt want the panopticon discussed during the election. If it goes through, I`ll be up the Coppice with my shovel. Direct action being the only way, Yesterdays crowd indeed!!

Bagpuss · 06-05-2005, 20:52

There you have it we're yesterdays crowd with racist tendancies, stop making excuses for your disappearence Graham I spoke to the canvassers who included your fellow councillors so if you're here to stay this time please continue telling it as you see it, there's not another general election for at least 4 years, I for one don't like b******t.

Graham Jones · 06-05-2005, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

There you have it we're yesterdays crowd with racist tendancies, stop making excuses for your disappearence Graham I spoke to the canvassers who included your fellow councillors so if you're here to stay this time please continue telling it as you see it, there's not another general election for at least 4 years, I for one don't like b******t.

Its easier to say what you think than say what you think people want you to say.

Less · 06-05-2005, 21:42

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1) There are a lot of people with racist tendancies on here in my view.

1/ You are absolutely correct it is your view.

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2) I have been away and then when I cam back the General Election took over.

2/ Yes, you're back I hope you're not going to use the General Election as an excuse for the next four or five years.

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3) I wrote the piece in 'pub talk' and it was to be edited as the press are after the full story [thanks to someone with no respect on this site] and thats where things get get distorted if your not careful. Just not had time to edi

3/ I've looked for this piece, forgive me, I can find no reference to it, is it on Accyweb in the 'Obbo', in the Telegraph, (don't expect respect on this site we want you to prove that you can earn respect).

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4) I think the loony left posting was a disgrace. The Lib Dems have even posted a membership form through my letterbox.

4/ Any looney left posting is a disgrace, have you ever read what they are trying to say? Just shows how desperate the Lib Dems were for members until twenty four hours ago I don't think they will want you now.

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5) Labour won the GE/Labour needs to 'revaluate' the result Tony!

5/ You said it no-one else.

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6) Labour held off the Tories at County Hall with a margin of 5 [from 8] and in Hyndburn there was a Labour landslide. Labour increasing majorties in 4 of the 6 seats, winning all 6, PB got stuffed alongside his predictions in Ossy.

6/ Yes, they did but not from any extreme effort just because the other parties couldn't be bothered!

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7) Just to cheer up 'all our yesterdays crowd', Cabinet are to give the Panopticon project the green light next week as outlined in a two page report.

7/ What pray tell is wrong with 'Yesterdays crowd'? we (or at least some of us) are going to celebrate V.E. day if it wasn't for 'Yesterdays crowd' making their sacrifices would you be in any position to crow about anything today?

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8) 'The Voice of Reason'... well the BNP got 4% in Hyndburn. UKIP lost their deposit and racists were kicked into touch.

Yes the racists were told we aren't interested but if instead of thinking you managed this on your own you where to run a poll on Accyweb you would find that the majority on here are happy with that situation!

Off to the pub

If it helps, I also go off to the pub when I find myself in a situation I can't cope with, but I'm a mere mortal NOT some-one that others hope they can trust their future with.

cashman · 06-05-2005, 22:28

voted labour all my life, if all you can think or say is yesterdays crowd i just hope your never in a position to stand for parliment. your sad not clever graham sorry if that seems offensive but its in my view.

WillowTheWhisp · 06-05-2005, 22:42

Welcome back Graham.

It would be interesting to see just how many racists you can find on Accyweb. If wanting all people to be treated as equals whatever their ethnic origins and wanting no-one to get preferential treatment is racist then I'm afraid I must be one of them. Personally I think people who treat others differently because of their race/creed/colour/country of origin/way of living etc etc are the ones who are racist but there you go.

cashman · 06-05-2005, 22:46

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Welcome back Graham.

It would be interesting to see just how many racists you can find on Accyweb. If wanting all people to be treated as equals whatever their ethnic origins and wanting no-one to get preferential treatment is racist then I'm afraid I must be one of them. Personally I think people who treat others differently because of their race/creed/colour/country of origin/way of living etc etc are the ones who are racist but there you go.

very well put willow i do tend to be a bit more blunt.

staggeringman · 07-05-2005, 01:33

7) Just to cheer up 'all our yesterdays crowd', Cabinet are to give the Panopticon project the green light next week as outlined in a two page report.

another wasted load of hard earned cash going on something that the people of accrington dont WANT, WAKE UP MR JONES MONEY CAN BE BETTER SPENT ELSE WHERE ,. TYPICAL BLOODY APPRENTICE POLITITION, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE N..B...D WHEN WILL YOU SET OF D...K H...DS LEARN.

chav1 · 07-05-2005, 02:13

i thought p.b had stated that it wasnt going to happen as the majority of people in accy didnt want it

is the final say so with p.b or someone else...?

sure aint the people of accy

Graham Jones · 07-05-2005, 18:44

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Originally Posted by cashman

voted labour all my life, if all you can think or say is yesterdays crowd i just hope your never in a position to stand for parliment. your sad not clever graham sorry if that seems offensive but its in my view.

I am sorry you have misunderstood what is happening here.

The bulk of the evaluation in the report and conclusion comes from work I and local residents have done over 12 months to find out what is best. We were neither for nor against in the beginning. For an opposition councillor it has been a lot of hard work.

There is nothing clever or sad about working hard, getting residents involved, letting them determine what they want and working for them. What isn't clever but however is sad is undermining people who are working hard and making the effort without yourself getting to know them, what they are doing, how they are doing it and most of all, respecting that effort. Your point was labour councillors should not be making smug arrogant swipes, I don't see it that way.

Having heard much criticism of the project by members, I am questioning the basis of that criticism, it wasn't personal, just critical. My point was nothing more than a humourous, ironic summary of one line of thinking. The type of political humour you would find in a political cartoon or satire.