town hall illegal parking - Page 5

Accyexplorer · 12-08-2014, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Gremlin

My Neice has received a "fine" of a hundred pounds today for 26 minutes worth of parking on Whalley Arms car park.
The photos included shows the car twice and the time difference.
OK she should have noticed the sign but can a private company acquire her details from DVLA and how can they "fine". They are not magistrates.
The lass is seventeen and a new driver.
Who knows who these peepers are and are they the sort who would turn up at her house and peep at her there.

I ASSUME if she has parked on private land and breached terms made by the owner (clearly sign posted,she will have entered into a (assumed) contract with the landowner) then the owner (or someone authorised by them) may give her a parking ticket.
This might look like an official "fixed penalty" but it's a 'notice' that the owner of the car park intends to take her to a civil court, and they will offer to let you pay the £100 to settle the case out of court. It'd be a civil matter and if she was prepared to fight it all the way there is a (slim) chance of them dropping it........I'd also assume the parking operators will have a deal with the DVLA were the DVLA sell her info to them for a fee.
All assumptions though G

gpick24 · 12-08-2014, 17:05

I wouldn't bother with the appeal myself. I have one from soccer dome in Blackburn, I was there legitimately, been in to reception twice now and they've faxed parking eye telling them to cancel but they still haven't.
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gpick24 · 12-08-2014, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Neil

Never had a car that showed me going slower, they are always out on the being careful side thought. At 70mph on the clock satnav thinks I am doing 67mph. Satnav is more accurate because your speedo reading can change slightly as your tyres wear. I thought they allowed 10% still

I thought it was 10%+2, and only a guideline so down to discretion of the officer I guess. New rules on speedo accuracy came in 2001 from what I've read today.

Mick · 13-08-2014, 06:02

Cant see what everyone is moaning about there are plenty of parking space on Blackburn Road and you wont get a ticket

and its not to far to a bus stop and shops

cashman · 13-08-2014, 07:16

The law enforcement has long been a total joke.

Accyexplorer · 13-08-2014, 08:31

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Originally Posted by gpick24

I wouldn't bother with the appeal myself. I have one from soccer dome in Blackburn, I was there legitimately, been in to reception twice now and they've faxed parking eye telling them to cancel but they still haven't.
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I'd always challenge/appeal any tickets g (even if I know I'm in the wrong

).
The worst thing you can do with these leeches is write to them and admit that you were parked on their land. Like I've said,it is a civil matter and private companies can't "fine" you.
I don't think you legally have to pay any fine unless it is formally issued directly by a government department (police,court , council , HMRC).

Lost in Cornwall · 13-08-2014, 08:46

A few years back I saw a memo issued to chief police officers saying that they shouldn't fine if a car was doing under 35 in a 30 limit, 46 in a 40 limit and so on. It was only advisory though and I think had a time limit that will have expired by now so don't know if anything else has replaced it.

gpick24 · 13-08-2014, 09:05

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

I'd always challenge/appeal any tickets g (even if I know I'm in the wrong

).
The worst thing you can do with these leeches is write to them and admit that you were parked on their land. Like I've said,it is a civil matter and private companies can't "fine" you.
I don't think you legally have to pay any fine unless it is formally issued directly by a government department (police,court , council , HMRC).

They never claim it to be a fine, it`s as you said earlier a breech of contract and they are invoicing you for losses. If you don`t pay, worst they can do is take you to small claims court.

accyman · 13-08-2014, 09:36

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Originally Posted by gpick24

They never claim it to be a fine, it`s as you said earlier a breech of contract and they are invoicing you for losses. If you don`t pay, worst they can do is take you to small claims court.

which will cost them court fees and legal fees thatthey cant get back so at best they would break even if they won

gpick24 · 13-08-2014, 09:38

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Originally Posted by accyman

which will cost them court fees and legal fees thatthey cant get back so at best they would break even if they won

They lose money taking people to court, but there was that much on the internet saying "ignore them, they never take you to court", they take that loss with the hope others will just pay.

hyndburner · 13-08-2014, 09:49

This thread, while being very interesting and worthwhile in terms of swapping stories and advice about parking, has actually wandered from the original point, which I don't think anyone has yet answered.

Who gave authority for cars to blatantly ignore parking restrictions outside the Town hall on Sunday?

cashman · 13-08-2014, 10:06

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Originally Posted by hyndburner

This thread, while being very interesting and worthwhile in terms of swapping stories and advice about parking, has actually wandered from the original point, which I don't think anyone has yet answered.

Who gave authority for cars to blatantly ignore parking restrictions outside the Town hall on Sunday?

Well our councillor members certainly won't answer that question, n nor will the police, (Fact) cos i asked em.

so how can any of us answer? wandering seems to be the only option, whem certain members won't address it.

Accyexplorer · 13-08-2014, 10:31

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Originally Posted by hyndburner

This thread, while being very interesting and worthwhile in terms of swapping stories and advice about parking, has actually wandered from the original point, which I don't think anyone has yet answered.

Who gave authority for cars to blatantly ignore parking restrictions outside the Town hall on Sunday?

My answer would be that nobody gave them authority to park there.
I'd say that since someone was hiring out our town hall function room etc, those that would/should enforce traffic regulations in that area turn a blind eye to parking outside due to the council making money.
I may be wrong and the front of the town hall doubles as a designated parking area when booking the function room, in that case, it would be the council that gives permission to park there.

Neil · 13-08-2014, 10:33

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Originally Posted by hyndburner

This thread, while being very interesting and worthwhile in terms of swapping stories and advice about parking, has actually wandered from the original point, which I don't think anyone has yet answered.

Who gave authority for cars to blatantly ignore parking restrictions outside the Town hall on Sunday?

Have you contacted the Town Hall to ask them why they didn't do something about it at the time? Have you contacted the Police with your photo's? Or are you just expecting something to happen because you had a moan on the internet?

cashman · 13-08-2014, 11:09

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Originally Posted by Neil

Have you contacted the Town Hall to ask them why they didn't do something about it at the time? Have you contacted the Police with your photo's? Or are you just expecting something to happen because you had a moan on the internet?

Yer aint at the races today,Neil the photos Hyndburner didn't put on,twas duggie.