Ukip

[Less]

Well, I hope Ukip get in and bring in the death penalty for thread wandering.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Eric

Still counting, eh. Doesn't make any difference ... crunch numbers till all atomic motion ceases in Hades ... you can't change the fact that popular historical memory has voted. And the winner is Adolph and the Nazis. Uncle Joe, Beria etc. are fading into history, along with other ethnic cleansers such as the Turks and General Philip Sheridan. Hitler isn't.

And the point you seem to be trying to make ... let me see ... is is that some democratic socialists, or many of them, cozied up to Stalin ... isn't really all that important in terms of the British political scene in the 20th century. British democratic socialism has, in the main, always been more democratic than it has socialist. And no matter how much you try to argue that left-wing genocidal maniacs are as bad as, or worse than the nazis, you can't alter that fact.

What I'm saying is this...the Soviets, just like the Nazis, killed millions of people to satisfy their own perverted ideology, therefore there is NO moral difference between them. Whether people chose to remember the evil of Stalin and other Soviet leaders or to let them "fade into history" is irrelevant. That's a fact.

Therefore, for a Labour party politico to support the Soviets is just as morally reprehensible as a right wing politico expressing Nazi sympathies. So what I was saying to C'mon is, no, you don't get Labour types supporting Adolf, but you have had them flirting with Soviet communism even in its most extreme Stalinist form, which is just as bad.

Right, Less, send for the firing squad. For my last meal, could I have black pudding from that stall on Accy market with English mustard please?

[Less]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Right, Less, send for the firing squad. For my last meal, could I have black pudding from that stall on Accy market with English mustard please?

No English mustard for you comrade, a bit of French maybe, but if i'm in a really bad mood, your last meal before eternity will be ruined by that wimpy American rubbish.
Fear not however, you sly soul you won't be eating alone as I have given in to temptation and that makes me just as guilty.
Unless of course there is a chance of appealing to a higher order.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

What I'm saying is this...the Soviets, just like the Nazis, killed millions of people to satisfy their own perverted ideology, therefore there is NO moral difference between them. Whether people chose to remember the evil of Stalin and other Soviet leaders or to let them "fade into history" is irrelevant. That's a fact.

Therefore, for a Labour party politico to support the Soviets is just as morally reprehensible as a right wing politico expressing Nazi sympathies. So what I was saying to C'mon is, no, you don't get Labour types supporting Adolf, but you have had them flirting with Soviet communism even in its most extreme Stalinist form, which is just as bad.

Right, Less, send for the firing squad. For my last meal, could I have black pudding from that stall on Accy market with English mustard please?

Black puddings Hote kwiseen du Lancashire. One food I really miss ... right up there with steak and kidney pudding. Can't get 'em here. Closest thing is some Quebecois muck called boudin. But can get the real mustard .... Now, this is a wander; unless the UKIP has policies governing the manufacture and marketing of black puddings. Come to think of it, the EU probably has regs governing the black pudding ... these regs, no doubt, fill at least fifteen volumes, closely typed. Hopefully, UKIP will, when they have power, move swiftly and decisively to streamline the regs, and clarify what it is that makes a true Black Pudding.

By the by ... what's your take on the Cambridge Four (or Five)?

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Eric

Black puddings Hote kwiseen du Lancashire. One food I really miss ... right up there with steak and kidney pudding. Can't get 'em here. Closest thing is some Quebecois muck called boudin. But can get the real mustard .... Now, this is a wander; unless the UKIP has policies governing the manufacture and marketing of black puddings. Come to think of it, the EU probably has regs governing the black pudding ... these regs, no doubt, fill at least fifteen volumes, closely typed. Hopefully, UKIP will, when they have power, move swiftly and decisively to streamline the regs, and clarify what it is that makes a true Black Pudding.

By the by ... what's your take on the Cambridge Four (or Five)?

Eric, you wouldn't believe it, but they have fat-free black puddings now...they just don't taste the same somehow.

The Cambridge Five?...up against the wall with 'em (although admittedly it's a bit late now!).

[Less]

Surely we can airlift a few puds and s&k for the depraved suffering in the colonies?
Just donate £25 per week to my Swiss account and for every pound donated I'll say thank you.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Less

Surely we can airlift a few puds and s&k for the depraved suffering in the colonies?
Just donate £25 per week to my Swiss account and for every pound donated I'll say thank you.

Wouldn't it be easier if I just gave you all my banking info and my credit card number?

[Less]

Originally Posted by Eric

Wouldn't it be easier if I just gave you all my banking info and my credit card number?

I like a challenge.

Seriously though...

Hang on while I calm down,

Me saying seriously?

How can we send you some heart ruining decent food?

Swap it for some moose.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Eric, you wouldn't believe it, but they have fat-free black puddings now...they just don't taste the same somehow.

The Cambridge Five?...up against the wall with 'em (although admittedly it's a bit late now!).

How do they do the fat free thing? Sawdust, food coloring, and tofu I'm getting fed up with all this lite, green, etc bs You buy lite beer and pay the same price for it More actually, 'cause insted of a dozen you need fifteeen or sixteen to get the same buzz. I mean, one doesn't go to one's local dope dealer and ask for marijuana lite: "I want lots of leaf and lumber .... oh, and don't forget to throw in a bunch of seeds. None of that sticky bud stuff that smells like the ass end of a skunk. Oh, and I demand to pay the same price for it."

Does the UKIP have a policy on the adulteration of the traditional black pudding?

[Wynonie Harris]

"I went for lunch in my university canteen to find that black pudding had suddenly become breakfast pudding and black coffee was renamed coffee without milk."

- Paul Nuttall, UKIP MEP.

Fortunately, they still call it black pudding on Accy market. Best to avoid the fat-free version, though...all those little lumps of fat add to the taste!

[Barrie Yates]

Fortunately, they still call it black pudding on Accy market. Best to avoid the fat-free version, though...all those little lumps of fat add to the taste! [/QUOTE

I am sure you were always able to get "Fat" or "Thin" black puddings - the thin ones not having the visible lumps of fat in them - I was always preferred the "Fat" ones (black puddings that is), and still do.

[davebtelford]

Nice bit of logic from Private Eye magazine - The Tories campaigned against the AV voting system in last year's referendum. If substantial numbers of Tory voters defect to UKIP they would probably have put Conservative as their second choice in an AV vote. As (probably) 3rd place in the poll the UKIP votes would have been re-distributed to the Tories giving them a better chance of beating Labour.

So the Tories shot themselves in the foot.

But under the first past the post system, switching from Conservative to UKIP is likely to promote Labour's chances.

I'm unsure what would be best to do!

[cmonstanley]

you know it makes sense

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

Still counting, eh. Doesn't make any difference ... crunch numbers till all atomic motion ceases in Hades ... you can't change the fact that popular historical memory has voted. And the winner is Adolph and the Nazis. Uncle Joe, Beria etc. are fading into history, along with other ethnic cleansers such as the Turks and General Philip Sheridan. Hitler isn't.

And the point you seem to be trying to make ... let me see ... is is that some democratic socialists, or many of them, cozied up to Stalin ... isn't really all that important in terms of the British political scene in the 20th century. British democratic socialism has, in the main, always been more democratic than it has socialist. And no matter how much you try to argue that left-wing genocidal maniacs are as bad as, or worse than the nazis, you can't alter that fact.

For socialism read failure end of story, the only time socialism has ever worked is by the point of a gun, which no doubt in your mind is democracy

[cmonstanley]

socialists did create the nhs. tories want to destroy it fact. maggie wanted to charge you to go to school lol