Uncontrolled dogs.

westendlass · 14-09-2013, 19:24

My sisters elderly dog (he's a twelve year old lurcher) has just been attacked for the fourth time by someone's off the lead dog. He's already on his last legs and really frail. I don't understand why, when they know their dogs are anti social, they let them off the lead in a public place. That poor dog is suffering greatly, as are the owners who have had him since he was a few weeks old. I wish people would care as much about other people's dogs as they do about their own.

gpick24 · 14-09-2013, 19:49

Happened to us quite a few times when Daisy was younger, usually on the canal, some people just don`t care. Solution - steel toe capped boots, although not needed anymore, she`s more then capable of sticking up for herself now.

cashman · 14-09-2013, 20:19

Happened to us on the canal a couple of years ago wi a stupid cow on a bicycle wi a big dog running behind her. she got very upset when i shouted a gobfull at her, would have kicked her in the cut, but she had passed us when it attacked.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-09-2013, 20:25

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Originally Posted by westendlass

I wish people would care as much about other people's dogs as they do about their own.

The thing is, people who have antisocial dogs are antisocial people.
Responsible dog owners do not act in such a way to put other animals in danger.

If you own a dog, you know what its temperament is. And if you know that it does not relate well to other dogs, then you keep it on a lead and muzzled.

I hope your sisters dog recovers from this ordeal very soon.

maxthecollie · 14-09-2013, 20:35

The dog owners are to blame.You should be in control of your dog at all times. If they know how their dog will react to other dogs, responsible owners will put their dogs on a lead

Neil · 14-09-2013, 20:46

Do you know where did this happened and what sort of dog attacked him so others can try and stay away from it?

shillelagh · 14-09-2013, 22:26

add quite a few dogwalkers that go down bash lines please ... I know teddie isn't very well behaved with other dogs .. that is why I never let him off the lead. Sometimes he will go for another dog .. normally the ones about 4 times the size of him .. never ones the same size ... anyway 2 women had 4 dogs between them .. running/wandering off the lead .. he'd seen em .. id shortened his lead ..and took him off to one side and stood over him .. and kept my hand on his collar ... the women 'oh you don't have to worry about mine theyre very friendly' me 'thanks for putting your dogs on back on the leads its not yours im worried about .. its him im more bothered about hes not very friendly' the women 'oh mine does everything I say oh walk on .. leave .. walk on ..' their dogs totally ignored what they were saying and were sniffing at teddie .. hes trying to get free ... and the dogs totally ignored em .. when teddie did get a bit lively growling and trying to get free .. they ended up having to get the leads out to drag them away .. as far as im concerned .. if you see a dog being kept on a short lead and someone standing over them .. they should think oh might not be friendly .. i'll put mine back on the lead till we get past just in case ... mind you he did get on with bob (davemac's) and hes met zack and lucy from next door .. didn't to bad with them either ... and duke .. my sisters ... he just loves to choose the big ones .. mind you zack and lucy are rotties ..

westendlass · 15-09-2013, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Neil

Do you know where did this happened and what sort of dog attacked him so others can try and stay away from it?

It wasn't round here Neil. My sister and her husband decided to take him for a change of scenery so they drove to a park in Rossendale. The dog was a patterdale terrier without a collar on so they couldn't grab hold of it easily.The owners apologised and have offered to pay for treatment but that's not the point. Dylan may not pull through this time, it's heartbreaking. Some dogs seem to home in on vulnerability.

Shurm · 15-09-2013, 08:29

Happened to us up the Coppice bloke had 2 Rottweilers and they just saw Nipper our Jack Russell and went straight for him, Kelly picked him up whilst they jumped up at her and the Daughter was crying as she was only 4 or 5 at the time. I told him he was well out of order but he didn't care just said I don't have to have them on a lead if I don't want, I was close to booting the dogs, it's just crap owners to blame. If we let Nipper off and see other dogs we always put him straight back on his lead.

westendlass · 15-09-2013, 08:51

It's true,it is the owners fault. Some people flabbergast me with their indifference and arrogance. If they knew they would have to pay actual cash for their stupidity then they would probably act differently. There are too many people like that these days.

shillelagh · 15-09-2013, 12:37

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Originally Posted by westendlass

It wasn't round here Neil. My sister and her husband decided to take him for a change of scenery so they drove to a park in Rossendale. The dog was a patterdale terrier without a collar on so they couldn't grab hold of it easily.The owners apologised and have offered to pay for treatment but that's not the point. Dylan may not pull through this time, it's heartbreaking. Some dogs seem to home in on vulnerability.

which one ...

Retlaw · 15-09-2013, 12:53

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Originally Posted by westendlass

It wasn't round here Neil. My sister and her husband decided to take him for a change of scenery so they drove to a park in Rossendale. The dog was a patterdale terrier without a collar on so they couldn't grab hold of it easily.The owners apologised and have offered to pay for treatment but that's not the point. Dylan may not pull through this time, it's heartbreaking. Some dogs seem to home in on vulnerability.

It is in most animals genetic code to kill the vunerable and ailing, even after centuries of domestication it is still there in dogs, thats why cats and dogs tend to hide when they are not well. Vets have noticed that an animal left on its own to recover from an illness or surgery will look really miserable, but if some one enters the room it will perk up as if to show its well. There was a documetary on this subject on TV some while ago.

Sunflower49 · 15-09-2013, 12:56

so sad.

I agree the owners are to blame, definitely. A dog that attacks is troubled and/or brought up incorrectly-as somebody who has had a troubled dog (a rescue) he was kept on the lead in public until his old habits had died.

I hope the dog recovers

My best friend's elderly cat was attacked and killed fairly recently by a dog that was off leash, with two kids supposedly in charge of it-and another time another friend's cat died shortly after being attacked by a stray dog. I wish owners had to be more responsible, and idiots weren't allowed to own or breed.

Some supposed 'owners' reactions really anger me-they seem to not care at all.

I was wary of letting Kya off the lead until I knew her properly-probably a bit too wary but that's better than risking anything bad happening.

She does give chase if smaller dogs are running from her but if they stop all she does is jump about trying to get them to play with her. She isn't aggressive. There's a lot of dogs around her that I wouldn't trust at all just by knowing the sort of people who 'own' them

westendlass · 15-09-2013, 16:29

Our dog Arnold was from a rescue centre as have been all the dogs we have had over the years. They have always been kept under control until we knew their personality, and knew they were safe in company. I would never risk my dog or anyone else's dog. Arnold is massive and, if he wasn't such a gentle dog, he could make a mess in a scrap. He was attacked last winter by an alsatian, Arnie was on the lead and the other dog ran at him and bit him on the chest. He shook the other dog off and the owner who was walking it off the lead said sorry, and the legged it with his dog. Arnie had grabbed it by the head to shake it off so they might have had to pay the vets themselves. Serves them right.

Studio25 · 16-09-2013, 00:34

What's the collective opinion on vicious dogs that are kept on their lead?

My two are very friendly - their tails are a wagging blur when they run up to other dogs to say hello, but I've been told to beware of a particular person whose dogs will attack any others that come near, and she keeps them on the lead for that reason.

If the worst happened, would it be my fault for letting my friendly dogs off the lead, or hers for simply having aggressive dogs?