Underage Sex Is Not Paedophilia?? - Page 2

Tinkerbelle · 20-11-2006, 21:23

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

There is no line to be drawn law is law, it is not 'bent' for anyone, or is it?

Bent no, mitigating circumstances yes. It's what we are all entitled to within our justice system. If a 17 year old lad on a charge of under-age sex uses a mitigating circustance of a loving relationship with the 15 year old girl then the courts should recognise that fact.

Ianto.W. · 20-11-2006, 21:30

A 17 year old 'lad' in my humble opinion does not know his backside from his elbow, never mind 'a loving relationship'.

Tinkerbelle · 20-11-2006, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

A 17 year old 'lad' in my humble opinion does not know his backside from his elbow, never mind 'a loving relationship'.

LOL! ..... Most of those 17 year old lads never grow out of that stage either Ianto.W

Ianto.W. · 20-11-2006, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

LOL! ..... Most of those 17 year old lads never grow out of that stage either Ianto.W

Or lasses'

andrewb · 20-11-2006, 22:19

Does it not really depend upon if said older person is activly going out and looking for a underage sexual partner? I mean.. people look a lot older these days... a 20 year old male could think hes with an 18 year old female (after all shes in pubs drinking) then it could turn out shes 15 (or less.. Ive known 14 year olds go out drinking around town).

Its a crime, but should it be punishable? What are you supposed to do, go around IDing people..

WillowTheWhisp · 20-11-2006, 22:19

A paedophile is an adult male who is attracted to and desires sexual contact with a child. A paedophile wouldn't look twice at most 14/15 year old girls because to him they would not look like children.

I can see the difference between under age sex between two consenting teenagers (even if the boy is a couple of years older than the girl) and they believe they are in love, and a situation where a dominant adult has forced himself on a child victim. In fact I feel sorry for 16/17 year old lads who find out their girlfriend is under 16. Girls mature a lot quicker than boys and quite often it's the girls who do the chasing.

I think that was what the guy was trying to say. That's why it's a grey area and why each case needs to be looked at individually.

Most 14 year old girls tend to be far too streetwise maybe and probably a lot more so than 15/16/17 year old boys. I've seen 13 and 14 year olds dressed like 17/18 year olds and wearing make up! It's hard to tell sometimes if a girl is 15 or 17 and it makes all the difference to whether it's legal or not.

Hope I'm making sense.

Ianto.W. · 20-11-2006, 22:31

It is not paedophilia I agree but some form of 'bringing to book' should take place, the girls parents are the ones that are left pardon the pun 'holding the baby', the parents of the father should be held accountable for theis son's actions, as are vandals parents.

shakermaker · 20-11-2006, 22:37

The problem is that young girls are made to grow up so quickly in this day and age, so they are forever looking for the perfect older lad because "he's going to be so mature".
Of course it is a two way street & cases in my opinion should be viewed as entirely situational, but as stated earlier in this thread, young teen females these days are playing a very very dangerous game.

Neil · 20-11-2006, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Now let's go up in stages 15 year old with a 20 year old? Hmmm not an ideal situation. 15 year old with a 25 year old? 15 with a 30 year old and so and so on .... Where is the line drawn?

Are we talking about the older person being a male?
Is it the same if the older person is a female?

WillowTheWhisp · 20-11-2006, 22:51

That's a very good point Neil.

Tinkerbelle · 20-11-2006, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Neil

Are we talking about the older person being a male?
Is it the same if the older person is a female?

Do you mean the regarding the law or my personal opinion on it?

Neil · 20-11-2006, 22:58

Both but mainly peoples personal opinion

Tinkerbelle · 20-11-2006, 23:03

The law, I think we both know is more biased towards prosecuting a male for under age sex than it is towards a female. I personally don't agree with it.

A 30 year old woman with a 15 year old lad is as wrong as vice versa in my opinion .... and a 17 year old girl with a 15 year old lad is just the same, I don't think they deserve prosecution.

Ianto.W. · 20-11-2006, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

The law, I think we both know is more biased towards prosecuting a male for under age sex than it is towards a female. I personally don't agree with it.

A 30 year old woman with a 15 year old lad is as wrong as vice versa in my opinion .... and a 17 year old girl with a 15 year old lad is just the same, I don't think they deserve prosecution.

WHY the law is the law, not one for you and one for me if it is illegal to have intercourse with a child under the age of 16 that is what it is, not what you want it to be.

steeljack · 20-11-2006, 23:16

ok, going to be the sexist pig here............any male 18 yrs or older who goes for a sexual relationship with a 13/14/ yr old girl needs to be dealt with by the law . Any woman over 20 yrs who goes for a sexual relationship with a 13/14/15 yr old lad needs treatment , then the law.