United states of GB

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

know what yer saying mancie, but its the vote we didn't get that bugs me.

and I know what you are saying.. we have not had a vote on the Constitution nor the Maastricht treaty but our reps have..i'ts been said before many times on here that we should have the chance to vote ourselves in or out of the Union...(mind you we know what happened to the souhtern states of America when they tried it ) but no political party will provide such a chance.. certainly not any Tory party, even though they whinge and moan about the EU constantly.
I do think the "special" relationship with the USA is real.. but seems like almost all the time it is Britain that gives more to that relationship.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

and I know what you are saying.. we have not had a vote on the Constitution nor the Maastricht treaty but our reps have..i'ts been said before many times on here that we should have the chance to vote ourselves in or out of the Union...(mind you we know what happened to the souhtern states of America when they tried it ) but no political party will provide such a chance.. certainly not any Tory party, even though they whinge and moan about the EU constantly.
I do think the "special" relationship with the USA is real.. but seems like almost all the time it is Britain that gives more to that relationship.

agree no party will give the "Peasants" a vote, also agree wi yer last paragraph.

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by Mancie

We seem to be constantly moaning about laws and regulations "imposed" on Britain by the EU from Brussels..but the EU is an elected Parliment.. it's just the same as moaning about the Goverment in London imposing regulations in Accrington.
I'm not standing up for the EU but at least you get a vote on who represents you .. we don't get to vote in USA elections.

We might have MEP’s but all they do is rubber stamp what the un-elected bureaucrats come up with. We then follow the dictats whilst the French ignore them if they don’t like them.

As the 49th state Hawaii gets to vote in the US elections and so does Alaska. Indeed Alaska very nearly had a vice president.

If the UK became the 51st state we too would have a vote.

Incidentally the national government does impose regulations on local governments.

[ossy kid]

Just found out about this one today. Being a resident of Canada but still a British citizen I previously had to apply to the British embassy in Ottawa for a replacement passport. As of January this year we have to apply to the British embassy in Washington??? Just another nail in the coffin.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by jambutty

Incidentally the national government does impose regulations on local governments.

Of course they do.. and you.. your voting area elected them to do just that.. impose regulations....just like they do when you voted for your MEP to do the same