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[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cashman

if thats the case kate, its like yeh cant use a mobile whilst driving,ruddy pointless, the law enforces sod all these days, unless its a soft target, gotta make the figures look good.

Well, they enforce it very stringently in downtown Manchester. Any sign of a can or bottle being supped in Piccadilly or Market St, and they're down on 'em like a ton of bricks. So if this is in place, the question is, why aren't the cops enforcing it in Accy?

[katex]

Dunno. There are reports that crimes such as assaults, glassings had been reduced by 50% due to this ban. Was imposed to stop revellers walking around from pub to pub with glasses in their hands, so maybe they concentrate on the night time drinkers rather than day time ? Still, we don't know how many people have been approached by the police during the day to 'abstain' do we.

Re. mobile 'phones, Cashy .... there are well over 100,000 fixed penalty notices imposed every year for this offence in England and Wales. Although, figures are showing that it is not having any effect on a large number of drivers who risk flouting this law, and the police are becoming more and more stretched, I guess, as cuts bite.

[cashman]

100,000 may seem a lot kate, but its sod all when yeh consider how many motorists are on the road "Daily"? its a safe bet to me there are more than that breaking the Law daily in G.B.

[katex]

Originally Posted by cashman

100,000 may seem a lot kate, but its sod all when yeh consider how many motorists are on the road "Daily"? its a safe bet to me there are more than that breaking the Law daily in G.B.

Agree, Cashy, we see it all the time, even on a short journey. Lorry drivers are the worst offenders sadly. If they went up your backside on the motorway, you wouldn't stand a chance.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by katex

I thought there was one in force already, Wynonie, since 2002 ?

Can't say I've seen any signs up. Gonna have to walk round with my eyes open now

[katex]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Can't say I've seen any signs up. Gonna have to walk round with my eyes open now

Can't say that I have taken much notice either ... know for definite there is one just before the viaduct down Milnshaw Lane and, I think, one on Church Street ? Broadway was part of the scheme, so there ought to be one there.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Can't say I've seen any signs up. Gonna have to walk round with my eyes open now

Have a look as you drive towards town on Dunk Way, I am sure there is one on there.

Noticed one on the park gate the other day as well. If I walk through that gate I will take a photo

[***Mr D***]

Good thred, could it be worth splitting into two threds, one for pictures and locations the other for discussion?

I have dealt with The Council many times regarding street waste as right outside my front door is a wind trap so I get all the streets rubbish. The phone staff have always been very police and helpfull and usually after a complait they do send a sweeper to sort very quick.

However the problem is weekly,(Bin days seem the worst) I offered and have done in the past to pick it up myself, but with bins collected every two weeks I dont have the room and as we are not allowed to leave extra bags out and I was refused a bigger bin I will now just leave it and complain/report.

As for the drinking signs, Im 99% sure there where loads about, one on the bottom avenue parade springs to mind, I checked today and couldnt see one? Have they been taken down. (One for the Councellers to check).

The problem is IIRC the police can only request that you dont drink not order and a request can be refused. (bylaw)?

Alcohol Policy UK: Controlled Drinking Zones

Quote from the Link.

According to the LGU, a spokesman for the Department for Communities & Local Government has since stated a ban would not be legal:

“Government legislation has already given councils, and the police, a range of powers to control drinking behaviour in their communities and it is taking steps to strengthen them further,” he said. “As such councils would not need to, or be able, to pursue a byelaw in this instance as they are specifically for local issues not covered by national legislation.”

[Gremlin]

Looking for somewhere to park near the Antley Dental practice I spotted these two grot spots. The old mattress is in the alley off China street behind the chippy and the rubbish near a car is on China street. Not a pleasant sight just before you go to sit in a dentist chair.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Looking for somewhere to park near the Antley Dental practice I spotted these two grot spots. The old mattress is in the alley off China street behind the chippy and the rubbish near a car is on China street. Not a pleasant sight just before you go to sit in a dentist chair.

Well it ain't all bad Gremlin you could have had a lie down and a snack before going in mate

[katex]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

As for the drinking signs, Im 99% sure there where loads about, one on the bottom avenue parade springs to mind, I checked today and couldnt see one? Have they been taken down. (One for the Councellers to check).

Alcohol Policy UK: Controlled Drinking Zones

Quote from the Link.

If you look on street view, Mr D, there was one at the bottom of Avenue Parade. Looks like they have moved the boundaries.

One at the bottom of Burnley Road too. Mind you, street view is not showing the one on Milnshaw Lane which I know is there now, and fairly recent I think.

They threaten anyone not complying with police instructions a fine of £ 500 !

[Gremlin]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well it ain't all bad Gremlin you could have had a lie down and a snack before going in mate

I never thought of that jaysay, it may be the dentist has left the bed and grub there just to help relax his patients, I was unlucky in that someone beat me to the grub.

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by katex

If you look on street view, Mr D, there was one at the bottom of Avenue Parade. Looks like they have moved the boundaries.

One at the bottom of Burnley Road too. Mind you, street view is not showing the one on Milnshaw Lane which I know is there now, and fairly recent I think.

They threaten anyone not complying with police instructions a fine of £ 500 !

mancheter road accrington - Google Maps

There is one here, and its there today, cant see who its really aimed at though, to me it seems it is aimed at the drivers coming into town.

Threaten is about as far as it would go. There is no law against drinking in public places. (if your in the know).

[Rob249]

I had an idea a few years ago which i sent to the councils cleansing dept, if say every household in the borough spent a couple of minutes each day just picking up what litter is outside their home, the whole borough would be so much cleaner, its a good idea but i know in practice not everyone would or could do it, i just often wonder why some people dont take pride in the are they live in.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Rob249

I had an idea a few years ago which i sent to the councils cleansing dept, if say every household in the borough spent a couple of minutes each day just picking up what litter is outside their home, the whole borough would be so much cleaner, its a good idea but i know in practice not everyone would or could do it, i just often wonder why some people dont take pride in the are they live in.

Myself, and all my neighbours do this.

Happily, and quite easily.

None of us have found the litter wouldn't fit into our bins.

Nor have we bothered to phone the council, for them to arrange a H.B.C. employee to come and remove it.

Primaily because we can easily do it ourselves, but also because by the time they got here the wind could have blown it elsewhere, making it someone else's problem.