Very Strange

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Which 'Labour apologists'?

Presumably there must be others, seeing as you named myself and Cllr.Moss.

Do try and remember, before attempting to second guess what I might have done if your little chum had held on to power, that I'm not tied by blind party loyalty.

I'm free to speak my own mind, and have no political axe to grind. Unlike some.

If savings need to be made, bringing the borough in line with the costs in the rest of Lancashire, it seems like a no brainer.

Back to posts by politicans.

Now they no longer have control of the council, are we to take it the Conservative councillors who are members of Accy Web, are going to remain mute?

Seems a shame.

Those in oppostition used to have freedom to spout off on here.

Guess we'll just have to make do with their little poodle's yaps.

I actually think its time you got a life, and stopped being bitter and twisted, when people point out your numerous short comings but I guess that will never happen

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I actually think its time you got a life, and stopped being bitter and twisted, when people point out your numerous short comings but I guess that will never happen

Then perhaps you shouldn't name me, attempting to guess what I would have posted if H.B.C. was still under Tory control.

Let me spell it out very clearly, so even those blinded by party allegiance can understand.

Given that we are facing cuts, it seems an inevitability that Hyndburn's cremation/interment costs are brought into line with the rest of Lancashire.

I'd have thought much the same whoever happened to control the council when this happened.

As stated earlier I think it's very much a non-story, and certainly not worthy of a front page one.

I'm quite aware of my own shortcomings.

The main one being not suffering fools gladly.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Then perhaps you shouldn't name me, attempting to guess what I would have posted if H.B.C. was still under Tory control.

Let me spell it out very clearly, so even those blinded by party allegiance can understand.

Given that we are facing cuts, it seems an inevitability that Hyndburn's cremation/interment costs are brought into line with the rest of Lancashire.

I'd have thought much the same whoever happened to control the council when this happened.

As stated earlier I think it's very much a non-story, and certainly not worthy of a front page one.

I'm quite aware of my own shortcomings.

The main one being not suffering fools gladly.

And no doubt that post will be repeated time after time after time after time, infinitum, I'm sure I'm not the only member on here who has noticed that you are always right, and woe betide anybody who dares to question the GREAT ONE, but if they do it ends up with snide remarks coming think and fast for the next 10 post until they are beaten into submission, whence you can sit back with a smug grim say that told um 10 times, just wonder what would happen if I decided to reciprocate, the mods would be all over me like a rash.

[cashman]

well having read this exchange n not givin a toss either way, cos yer both mates, i can honestly say i think yeh asked fer it.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

well having read this exchange n not givin a toss either way, cos yer both mates, i can honestly say i think yeh asked fer it.

Oh don't you startI'm in a lather wi Ridi nevermind you an all

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

And no doubt that post will be repeated time after time after time after time, infinitum, I'm sure I'm not the only member on here who has noticed that you are always right, and woe betide anybody who dares to question the GREAT ONE, but if they do it ends up with snide remarks coming think and fast for the next 10 post until they are beaten into submission, whence you can sit back with a smug grim say that told um 10 times, just wonder what would happen if I decided to reciprocate, the mods would be all over me like a rash.

No, it is you who were wrong.

Wrong in suggesting I would have started a thread about this, and created a big fuss, if you're little chum Britcliffe still controlled the council.

I wouldn't.

What's happened seems an inevitability.

Do not name me, and try and second guess what I might have done.

I wouldn't waste my time posting lies on here.

I do not think this is much of a story, seeing as we are facing cuts, and are merely being brought in line with the rest of Lancashire.

I'd think this whoever implemented it.

To suggest otherwise is wrong.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

And no doubt that post will be repeated time after time after time after time, infinitum, I'm sure I'm not the only member on here who has noticed that you are always right

You're right about one thing, I'm sure there are 'others', who think just like you.

It's rare you see a single fool, they tend to seek others of equally feeble mind

Originally Posted by garinda

The main one being not suffering fools gladly.

[garinda]

[garinda]

'Conservative leader Coun Peter Britcliffe said...'

Funeral charges rise are branded a 'death tax' | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

I wonder who decided this was a big news story anyway, and went to the press with it?

[Margaret Pilkington]

It was a 'non' story and it certainly didn't deserve the front page coverage that it got. When I read it I felt that it must've been a very poor week in Hyndburn for news, if this is all they could find to fill the front page with.

[MargaretR]

Nobody 'gets left on top'.
Hygienic disposal is an essential public health matter.
Funeral directors are the 'rip off' merchants.
If the new price of cremations and burials is nearer the actual cost of the service then I approve of the increase.
Relatives will inherit a little less - so what!

[DaveinGermany]

Seems to me it's all about making political capital out of the sorrow of others. If it was one of my kith & kin requiring funereal services I would want the best I could afford for them regardless of the councils "take", I'd not put things on hold & go looking round at other councils to "compare the market".

By using such an emotional event in any way to score politically is just simply obscene & pretty low even by the standards of some politicians, furthermore it adds even more turmoil to an already grieving & upset family.

Just a point of note, the quote below is taken from an article (Accrington Observer 02 Sept 2011) which Rindy posted :-

"Funeral charges, which have gone up by more than £100 in just nine months, have been branded a ‘death tax’.

And the HBC Council changed leadership when ?

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I actually think its time you got a life, and stopped being bitter and twisted, when people point out your numerous short comings but I guess that will never happen

You haven't been at these today have you Jay?
Bitter & Twisted - Harviestoun Brewery Ltd. - Alva, United Kingdom (Scotland) - BeerAdvocate
I have gathered that you are something of a connosieur!
The first review of this reads (see link):
"Light fluffy lacy head.
Light gold colour.
A round and satisfying bitterness makes this a bit of a clinger. Grapefruit without the intense sweetness but a grown u sweetness. Fairly long coating of dusty chalkiness
Stands and delivers without the extremities of other loud attention seeking .....! Quality."
Perhaps this is what you really meant, or will it be fisticuffs at dawn I wonder....

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Seems to me it's all about making political capital out of the sorrow of others. If it was one of my kith & kin requiring funereal services I would want the best I could afford for them regardless of the councils "take", I'd not put things on hold & go looking round at other councils to "compare the market".

By using such an emotional event in any way to score politically is just simply obscene & pretty low even by the standards of some politicians, furthermore it adds even more turmoil to an already grieving & upset family.

Just a point of note, the quote below is taken from an article (Accrington Observer 02 Sept 2011) which Rindy posted :-

"Funeral charges, which have gone up by more than £100 in just nine months, have been branded a ‘death tax’.

And the HBC Council changed leadership when ?

I don't think it has much to do with the change of leadership. There was a change of Government...and cuts were needed from all aspect of services provided by councils all over the country. It has to do with cuts that were required to be made, that and the fact that the charges had been lower in our borough than anywhere else in Lancashire

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

"Funeral charges, which have gone up by more than £100 in just nine months, have been branded a ‘death tax’.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I don't think it has much to do with the change of leadership. There was a change of Government...

That Ma was my point, the increase has been in effect prior to any local change (counting May & labour taking control = 4 Months) so to insist that these changes have been brought about by the present council can't be justified as the increases had begun earlier.(according to the local paper)

So what does that say about the comments made by certain parties on this issue ?