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Old 24-06-2008, 13:33   #16
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Archiveuk, that is a very compassionate approach you have there.
So you consider your car journey more important than the life of someone with mental health problems??
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Old 24-06-2008, 13:38   #17
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We don't know the whole situation this bloke may be in.. for all we know his giro might not have come.
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Old 24-06-2008, 13:41   #18
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Archiveuk, that is a very compassionate approach you have there.
So you consider your car journey more important than the life of someone with mental health problems??
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Too right, or put it another way, what right do these muppets have to hold up thousands of people, for the best part of three hours, whist they make a "cry for attention"? i call it total selfishness ...
Imagine the cost to our society in lost working hours, missed appointments, there were drivers and passengers busting to go to the toilet etc .... One womam missed a job interview, need I go on ?

Get em tazzered ...
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Old 24-06-2008, 13:45   #19
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No, indeed, you have answered my question perfectly.
I do hope that in your life you never have the misfortune to suffer from mental illness, or for that matter have someone you love suffer from mental illness. You assume that this person was just a time waster, because he made you waste some of your time.
You know nothing of the facts of the case or the situation that this person was in.
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Old 24-06-2008, 14:22   #20
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Unless it happens to someone you love you will never understand. It's not 'attention seeking' as is so often dismissed.

To feel suicidal someone must be going through absolute hell.
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Old 24-06-2008, 14:36   #21
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I feel that suicide is a very selfish act. I have known people that have done it, 1 that failed and 1 that ,well, diddn't. I saw first hand what they were going through and I feel that there is always a better answer. To put friends and family through all that pain and heartache is, like I said, selfish.

This is just MY personal opinion.
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Old 24-06-2008, 14:42   #22
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I knew a spinster who had terminal cancer and committed suicide.
She had only one living relative - a brother.
She inflicted no pain by doing it- she saved herself a lot of pain, and she was selfless by not wishing to be a burden on her brother.
No two suicides are the same, either in their reason or the after effects.
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Old 24-06-2008, 14:54   #23
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If someone has a mental health problem so serious that they consider jumping off a viaduct, what makes anybody think they have even considered the fact that they are holding up traffic, or inflicting emotional damage on thier next of kin, it is a mental health problem, ie, the brain isnt functioning correctly, they are devoid of the ability to make a rational judgement, they likely dont even realise to the full extent that they may kill themselves by jumping, so, what part of 'the person doesn't understand the implications of his actions', do some not understand?
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:54   #24
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No, indeed, you have answered my question perfectly.
I do hope that in your life you never have the misfortune to suffer from mental illness, or for that matter have someone you love suffer from mental illness. You assume that this person was just a time waster, because he made you waste some of your time.
You know nothing of the facts of the case or the situation that this person was in.
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:56   #25
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my friend died of mental health problems but his death was labeled as suicide.

he thought he was a yo-yo and threw himself off a viaduct

i seriously dont think he intended to kill himself
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Old 24-06-2008, 19:14   #26
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By the time someone has got to the stage of being suicidal they aren't even thinking about their own wellbeing let alone those they would leave behind.
I too used to think it was a selfish and cowardly act, I have been enlightened on the subject and now view it differently; most " cries for help" are managed so they will be just that, someone bent on suicide isn't thinking that far ahead.
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Old 24-06-2008, 19:20   #27
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By the time someone has got to the stage of being suicidal they aren't even thinking about their own wellbeing let alone those they would leave behind.
I too used to think it was a selfish and cowardly act, I have been enlightened on the subject and now view it differently; most " cries for help" are managed so they will be just that, someone bent on suicide isn't thinking that far ahead.
erm....sorry but if they are bent on suicide there isnt a 'ahead'
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Old 24-06-2008, 20:26   #28
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Eh.. if I lived in Accy jumping off the viaduct would seem like a pretty good option!
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Mancie, I reckon you could make a good business out of this. I reckon some people would pay a good price judging off some of the attitudes on the forum to suicide
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Old 24-06-2008, 20:31   #29
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By the time someone has got to the stage of being suicidal they aren't even thinking about their own wellbeing let alone those they would leave behind.
I too used to think it was a selfish and cowardly act, I have been enlightened on the subject and now view it differently; most " cries for help" are managed so they will be just that, someone bent on suicide isn't thinking that far ahead.

well said Lindsay
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Old 24-06-2008, 20:52   #30
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I know people who have comitted suicide and people who have contemplated suicide, its clear that rational thought is no longer in it, they need a way out and cant see any other option
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