Watch where your taking photo's round here!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Foulridge.

All his contact details, name, address, telephone number, postcode, are on his website.

EFT Me - Contact

Damn, his site seems to have been closed down, and it had his address listed.

Happily I made note of it, so will use the freedoms we have, which he fights for so vehemently, to have a nosey at his gaff on Google Street View, as is my democratic right.

He shouldn't have a problem with Google photographing his property. After all he happily sticks a camera in other people's faces, sometimes from behind his back, and without their consent or permission.

[katex]

Originally Posted by garinda

Damn, his site seems to have been closed down, and it had his address listed.

Happily I made note of it, so will use the freedoms we have, which he fights for so vehemently, to have a nosey at his gaff on Google Street View, as is my democratic right.

He shouldn't have a problem with Google photographing his property. After all he happily sticks a camera in other people's faces, sometimes from behind his back, and without their consent or permission.

Noticed another letter in the Observer supporting this plank's case ... only around the corner from me ... feel like knocking on her door and laying down a few facts about our Bob !!

Not one word preceding this article of anyone understanding the truth of this matter .. not even the Observer, and we just know they will have read this thread don't we. Thought was a great opportunity for a reporter .. there again, that is the difference between local reporters and stepping up into the national reporting level. Digging up the dirt is more newsworthy .. but they don't seem to understand this.

Would have written to the Observer myself Garinda ... just felt was your shout though.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by katex

Would have written to the Observer myself Garinda ... just felt was your shout though.

I was sorely tempted.

I was put off after they didn't print a letter about Logan standing in the General Election. Still, publishing the letter on here instead, probably reached a wider circulation, and illicited a response from the holy man himself.

I've just read this week's 'star letter' regarding the 'freedom fighter', 'innocent' Bob Patefield.

Obviously the few journalists left at the Observer don't read Accy Web. Otherwise they'd know this man did have an agenda that day, and that was to provoke our police into confonting him, just as the 'terrorist style' videos on the website of Tír Na Saor - Freemen of Ireland, of which he's a member, show you how to make happen, by acting provocatively, and refusing to co-operate when questioned by the police.

If you feel the need to readdress the reality of the situation Katex, be my guest.

(If you're lucky enough to be the star letter writer, I would willingly celebrate with you again over lunch.)

[heywoodknight]

They are arsey about it, years ago I was doing a project when I was at Accy college. The police and the community wardens weren't to happy about us playing with disposable cameras in the centre.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by katex

Thought was a great opportunity for a reporter .. there again, that is the difference between local reporters and stepping up into the national reporting level. Digging up the dirt is more newsworthy .. but they don't seem to understand this.

Since the story broke, about Accrington being a 'police state', and it was reported both nationally, and internationally, any young hack wanting to make a name for him or herself, could have used the information revealed in this thread, to give a true account of this man, and his intentions.

An opportunity wasted.

In the meantime we have to put up with soft saps writing to the local press, about the mistreatment of innocent happy snappers.

[shillelagh]

Rindy the prize for the star letter is now a £25 voucher for Ossie Mills ..

I read that letter and first thoughts were i wonder if the writer of the letter is connected in anyway to him and if she had by any chance seen this thread ..

Wonder if a letter into accy observer saying if they want an unbiased view re the photo taking in accy town centre .. to have a look on accringtonweb.com ..

[garinda]

Originally Posted by shillelagh

Rindy the prize for the star letter is now a £25 voucher for Ossie Mills ..

Where you can have lunch.

[jaysay]

How I long for the days of local reporters who actually cared about this area, People Like Margaret Cheeseborough, and Janet Woolley, and Mervyn was a first class editor

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

How I long for the days of local reporters who actually cared about this area, People Like Margaret Cheeseborough, and Janet Woolley, and Mervyn was a first class editor

I'm not going to criticise individual local journalists, as I think the fact that they're so widely spread, puts them in a difficult situation, with regards to investing time spent on uncovering scoops.

However I do think ignoring the information in this thread, which could have blown holes in a nationally and internationally reported story, was a missed oportunity, for someone to make their mark in what's become a very hard industry to work in.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

I'm not going to criticise individual local journalists, as I think the fact that they're so widely spread, puts them in a difficult situation, with regards to investing time spent on uncovering scoops.

However I do think ignoring the information in this thread, which could have blown holes in a nationally and internationally reported story, was a missed oportunity, for someone to make their mark in what's become a very hard industry to work in.

I can see your point Rindi, but not too long ago the local reporters didn't have Accy Web, but still managed to find interesting local stories, through their contacts, its not that long ago the Mervyn used to ring me at home asking if I had heard about something going on in Ossy, and was able to point him in the right direction. In those days Observer reporters got up off their backsides and went out into the community looking for stories, not sitting at the end of a phone hopping for it to ring

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I can see your point Rindi, but not too long ago the local reporters didn't have Accy Web, but still managed to find interesting local stories, through their contacts, its not that long ago the Mervyn used to ring me at home asking if I had heard about something going on in Ossy, and was able to point him in the right direction. In those days Observer reporters got up off their backsides and went out into the community looking for stories, not sitting at the end of a phone hopping for it to ring

Though sadly, along with the office in the town being closed, their numbers have been cut, and the areas covered increased.

No reflection on any one individual, just a reflecton of the changes in the printed news media industry.

[Mick]

The wife works at a nursing home in ossy, last Sunday one of the residents who was 95 had to get ready to go to her elder sisters birthday party who lives in the same home she was 100
The nursing home rang the observer to come and take some photos they declined saying if you want photos in the paper you have to send them in yourself.
great journalism or what

And just as a foot note looking round the shops for a decent birthday card for a 100 year old is not easy i went into one shop but they said they don't do them over 90 years old
another shop had one card it was plain with 100 on not a lot of choice another had 2 that's about it

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mick

The wife works at a nursing home in ossy, last Sunday one of the residents who was 95 had to get ready to go to her elder sisters birthday party who lives in the same home she was 100
The nursing home rang the observer to come and take some photos they declined saying if you want photos in the paper you have to send them in yourself.
great journalism or what

Have been told the same thing, when trying to get photographs of the local Parkinson's support group in the paper. Happily they were published, when we sent them in.

With the rise of people accessing the news on the internet, and falling circulations for printed newspapers, which mean staffing costs are cut, the future doesn't look too bright for many traditional publications.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Have been told the same thing, when trying to get photographs of the local Parkinson's support group in the paper. Happily they were published, when we sent them in.

With the rise of people accessing the news on the internet, and falling circulations for printed newspapers, which mean staffing costs are cut, the future doesn't look too bright for many traditional publications.

And we are the losers Rindi

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

And we are the losers Rindi

I think democracy will be the loser, with local politicans being less accountable for their actions, because the fewer journalists we have won't have the time to devote to important issues.

You can't halt progress.

People now expect their news to be delivered almost immediately, and not wait for it to be printed, and posted through their letterbox.