what an eyesore - Page 2

Less · 21-03-2012, 12:32

I think you will find these signs only at the entrances to a 20mph zone, none of the streets contained within the area will have them, because after all you have been warned.

cashman · 21-03-2012, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Neil

I don't like rules that are un enforceable but these 20mph limits are perfectly legal and enforceable.

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Originally Posted by katex

Have contacted my personal consultant on this matter

Here is the reply.

'This is not an obligation. Some authorities have a 'blanket' 20mph limit on side streets by-law. 20mph is impossible to enforce anyway. The speed guns can't differentiate speeds as accurately at that level and consequently the police refuse to enforce them. Hence the need for traffic calming, speed bumps etc.

The 20mph signing in residential areas is pretty much a nonsense. It doesn't force drivers to drive slower (unless there are accompanying speed bumps) and won't be enforced. However it is relatively low cost and makes politicians look good... even though in reality it does nothing without the traffic calming (which then increases the costs significantly).
'

Sorry Kate they are enforcable Neil says so.

Personally i have no objection to that speed limit,its sensible, i object to the complete waste of our money, no matter how much it costs.

katex · 21-03-2012, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Less

I think you will find these signs only at the entrances to a 20mph zone, none of the streets contained within the area will have them, because after all you have been warned.

Actually not. Take Sparth Road (Clayton). They are there as you enter ... top of Lynwood Avenue (off Sparth Road), then down my cul-de-sac road (off Lynwood).

Suppose it will make some drivers think twice though.

accyman · 21-03-2012, 13:46

i qwent to edinbrugh yesterday and it had less signage than clayton le moors and i couldnt see people having to dodge near death at every turn and thats a city

maxthecollie · 21-03-2012, 14:44

They drive fast down our way ( 20mph limit) to see if they can take off over the speed humps.

accyman · 21-03-2012, 19:17

just passed them again today and 3 are already vandalised in a very short distance lol

also they put the 20mph signs on the very short streets near clayton lights which if by some miracle someone got to 30mph they would end up in a wall because they are very short dead end streets.

what an massive waste of money

katex · 21-03-2012, 19:25

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Originally Posted by accyman

just passed them again today and 3 are already vandalised in a very short distance lol

also they put the 20mph signs on the very short streets near clayton lights which if by some miracle someone got to 30mph they would end up in a wall because they are very short dead end streets.

what an massive waste of money

Is that the Topenders territory ? Typical ... LOL.

accyman · 21-03-2012, 19:29

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Originally Posted by katex

Is that the Topenders territory ? Typical ... LOL.

the damaged ones were lower clayton just up from the playing fields.Some are just turned around and others are hanging off because they have been yanked at .

the really posh ( those with electricity) area hasnt had signs put up yet

katex · 21-03-2012, 20:28

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Originally Posted by accyman

the damaged ones were lower clayton just up from the playing fields.Some are just turned around and others are hanging off because they have been yanked at .

the really posh ( those with electricity) area hasnt had signs put up yet

Really ? Been around that area tonight, taking my friend's dog for a walk. Did specifically look and didn't notice this. You mean the estate then ?

Was OK around 3.30 >>> 4.30 p.m.

Hang on .. I already have a sign almost outside my door .. you saying I'm not posh then ...LOL.

DaveinGermany · 21-03-2012, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Neil

I am waiting for the big lists of motorists in the Observer who are in court for speeding.

Not going to happen, they've got rights :-

Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Says it all really

jaysay · 22-03-2012, 09:55

These signs are pure window dressing, just like No Ball Games, waste of time and unenforceable

accyman · 22-03-2012, 12:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay

These signs are pure window dressing, just like No Ball Games, waste of time and unenforceable

window dressing usually looks nice and is appealing so as to attract people

what LCC have done here is make hyndburn look like a flipping warzone or will do by the time they have spent millions putting up 20mph signs on every single side street