What do you think about the cuts in arts funding?

[SamF]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

SamF..... that is the problem with the internet, the nuances fail to get across, and if you read it back to yourself, surely you will see that it sounds ever so patronising.

You are right and I can see how it could have been read now, took a while since it was not what I meant. Again to reiterate, Accrington is one of the poorer areas of the country. This implies greater financial hardship and therefore different priorities to those in more affluent areas.

For the record I'm from Accrington, skint, live with Artists, play classical guitar, listen to classical music, visit a few galleries a year. Don't shoot :P

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by keetah_992000

Just wondering what your opinions are on the cuts and how you think it will affect those around you ?

Originally Posted by SamF

Methinks that this question on a messageboard where the majority of users were brought up in a northern impoverished old mill town is pretty pointless, the answer is a resounding couldn't care less

Don't think he meant to offend folks, just a little confusion when all's said & done. And let's be honest, his end summation does seem to pretty much cover the general consensus from across the board.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Most of us will support the Arts in our own way....we may visit local productions and some of us may venture further afield to the city to see stage shows, musicals, plays.
I like to visit galleries, stately homes and the like......but only when I can afford to do so.
Just because we are from a poorer part of the country doesn't mean we are not artistically aware, or that we cannot appreciate good quality Art projects...the emphasis here, is on the quality. It is too easy to be bamboozled into thinking that it is art because someone says it is.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SamF

Eurgh calm yourself - I didn't say anything for or against I simply stated that the opinion held by most from the area would be that they couldn't care less. How is that in any way stupid, surely you would agree that it is fact ?

Er...because if you'd care to read what people actually posted, you'd see that people do care, and you are wrong in saying that they 'couldn't care less'.

They are concerned where, and what their taxes are spent, when it comes to funding so called arts. Or indeed respite care for disabled children.

If they didn't care, one way or another, I presume they wouldn't have bothered to express an opinion.

Living in an 'impoverished northern mill town' has absolutely no bearing on anyone's opinion. Fact. To suggest otherwise is crassly patronising, as well as being wrong.

From what some people, unable to read clear statements, and who exhibit such gross stupidity, perhaps it's cuts in further education that are needed, because it doesn't seem to have been very benefical.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Don't think he meant to offend folks, just a little confusion when all's said & done. And let's be honest, his end summation does seem to pretty much cover the general consensus from across the board.

Not necessarily!
It just might be that we are choosy as to what we determine ART to be.

[steeljack]

think if it gets rid of street Graffiti "art" projects and money being spent to teach 'urban' youth how to rap (rhyme Motha with Sucka etc.) dont see any problem with withdrawing funds.

[SamF]

Originally Posted by garinda

Er...because if you'd care to read what people actually posted, you'd see that people do care, and you are wrong in saying that they 'couldn't care less'.

They are concerned where, and what their taxes are spent, when it comes to funding so called arts. Or indeed respite care for disabled children.

If they didn't care, one way or another, I presume they wouldn't have bothered to express an opinion.

Living in an 'impoverished northern mill town' has absolutely no bearing on anyone's opinion. Fact. To suggest otherwise is crassly patronising, as well as being wrong.

From what some people, unable to read clear statements, and who exhibit such gross stupidity, perhaps it's cuts in further education that are needed, because it doesn't seem to have been very benefical.

Ok, for complete clarity. The question was what is your opinion on the cuts in arts funding. You yourself say that public funding is not required.

Stop insulting me, this has been a misunderstanding and you quite frankly have no right.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SamF

You are right and I can see how it could have been read now, took a while since it was not what I meant. Again to reiterate, Accrington is one of the poorer areas of the country. This implies greater financial hardship and therefore different priorities to those in more affluent areas.

For the record I'm from Accrington, skint, live with Artists, play classical guitar, listen to classical music, visit a few galleries a year. Don't shoot :P

Artistic appreciation knows no geographic, or economic boundaries.

Similarly that also applies to understanding, intelligence, and common sense.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SamF

quite frankly have no right.

I think you'll find you're wrong again.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Incidentally just what is Art/Arts in this instance ?

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It just might be that we are choosy as to what we determine ART to be.

Not intending my comment to be some kind of Zen thingy or the rhetoric of the Artsy, philosophising types, but a simple statement as you yourself have noted in your own comment Ma.

[SamF]

Originally Posted by garinda

Artistic appreciation knows no geographic, or economic boundaries.

I did not say a single thing about Artistic appreciation.

Originally Posted by garinda

I think you'll find you're wrong again.

Stop with the insults, you are showing yourself to be a fool.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SamF

Ok, for complete clarity. The question was what is your opinion on the cuts in arts funding. You yourself say that public funding is not required.

Stop insulting me, this has been a misunderstanding and you quite frankly have no right.

Er...you might need clarity.

Apparently not understanding what you wrote was patronising in the extreme.

Personally I don't need clarification.

I clearly, and simply gave my opinion on this topic, in post three of this thread.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Not intending my comment to be some kind of Zen thingy or the rhetoric of the Artsy, philosophising types, but a simple statement as you yourself have noted in your own comment Ma.

It's Ok Son...you and I have a unique understanding anyway......don't we

[garinda]

As to whether the impoverished residents of a northern mill town have an opinion on publicly funded arts, or if indeed they couldn't 'care less'.

Perhaps evidence could be gathered by reading one of the longest threads in Accy Web history.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...art-55321.html

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SamF

I did not say a single thing about Artistic appreciation.

Stop with the insults, you are showing yourself to be a fool.

Originally Posted by SamF

Methinks that this question on a messageboard where the majority of users were brought up in a northern impoverished old mill town is pretty pointless, the answer is a resounding couldn't care less

Not me that looks more than a little foolish.