What Have We Done Wrong? - Page 2

Gayle · 25-10-2006, 15:16

...or have to go scrabbling around at the top of the coal face to collect some slivers of discarded coal - and then to make matters worse have everyone call you a gobbiner!

WillowTheWhisp · 25-10-2006, 15:20

They still call you a gobbiner, nothing's changed there.

Less · 25-10-2006, 15:22

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Originally Posted by AccyJay

Niether do you need to comment on it. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

Not in this thread you aren't, Your looking towards getting a 'stick your nose out' award!

We probably haven't done any worse than previous generations (yet) and with encouragement perhaps the next generation of decision makers will be able do better with what could be harder decisions than what we have had to face?

WillowTheWhisp · 25-10-2006, 15:25

The problem is that looking back you can usually see things which could have been done better but there's no way of knowing that at the time. All we can ever do is move forwards from where we currently stand and hope to learn by any past mistakes.

garinda · 25-10-2006, 15:26

Although sadly people have died in various conflicts, we haven't had another world war.

shakermaker · 25-10-2006, 15:28

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Originally Posted by garinda

Although sadly people have died in various conflicts, we haven't had another world war.

YET! Remember people, good old Dubya's in charge

SamF · 25-10-2006, 16:38

Nothing could have been done better.

At any point in time do you think someone made a decision... yes we could do it the best way... but we'd rather try this instead.

At all times all decisions have been made with the best intentions, therefore, it did not "go wrong" what we have today is the best possible scenario.

Sure, looking back other decisions could have had a better outcome however at the time of a decision, it was the best one available.

Not sure if I'm making much sense here but at least I know what I mean

bullseyebarb · 25-10-2006, 19:59

Got to agree with Gayle and garinda on this one. Having lived without the amenities mentioned in this thread during the early years of my life, I certainly appreciate all that we have access to nowadays. As jambutty says, there's a tendency in today's society towards instant gratification and the "me, me, me" frame of mind. But people in times gone by didn't have that luxury of thought. They were too busy struggling just to make ends meet.

Lynne · 25-10-2006, 20:47

Yes Bullseysbarb I agree
We do have better amenities but are we safe to go outside without being mugged or park our car without it being stollen (by 14 and 15 year olds) who then go on to kill poor kids just walking in the street. Poeple are much better off today but its still not enough. Every generation has more and better than the last but we are never satisfied.

I hope that if we ask the same question (What have we done wrong) in 20 years time we don't get the same answers because then we would not have learnt from our mistakes. Don't forget we reap what we sow.

garinda · 25-10-2006, 21:39

Although today there are lots of areas considered unsavoury and unsafe to venture into after dark, they are probably a hell of a lot safer than the Britain of two hundred years ago.

Thousands of prostitutes, beggars, highway men, vagabonds, and urchins roaming the dimly lit, foggy, sewer ridden streets that are our past.

WillowTheWhisp · 25-10-2006, 21:45

Dare I suggest that perhaps some people view the past through rose coloured spectacles?

garinda · 25-10-2006, 23:26

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Dare I suggest that perhaps some people view the past through rose coloured spectacles?

No.

Now go and let the little boy down, who has been sweeping your chimney all day.

Mancie · 25-10-2006, 23:51

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

Got to agree with Gayle and garinda on this one. Having lived without the amenities mentioned in this thread during the early years of my life, I certainly appreciate all that we have access to nowadays. As jambutty says, there's a tendency in today's society towards instant gratification and the "me, me, me" frame of mind. But people in times gone by didn't have that luxury of thought. They were too busy struggling just to make ends meet.

OMG! tear jerking stuff.. from a right wing tory..and where have these amenities/access come from? the tory party? no..the tories apposed all you have said!

Mancie · 26-10-2006, 00:19

strange post by me and no edit.. what i would say is that I can't stand tories taking the high ground and saying how bad it was in the old days when most of the bad old days were under tory rule.. but on the other hand saying that everything was great when women could not vote and kids were used as items to create wealth for the same tories as today... right wing dogs!

steeljack · 26-10-2006, 03:32

Jambo , the problems you mention about todays youth stem directly from the WW11 generation , the products of the baby boom were raised by parents who had gone thru WW11 , the men had been away for 4/5 years and the women had 'stayed behind' had been introduced to another lifestyle (burtontowood etc, even the ossie moors )
This generation didn't know if they would be speaking English or German the next day so they lived one day to the next, one day at a time,at the end of the war the people voted out Churchill and said 'never again" for the second time (WW1, Labour/League of Nations/Pacifism etc)
The parents who raised children during the 50s/60s were maybe a tad lax in their parental resonsibilities but this goes back to the conditions of life during 39/45 and this was passed on to future generations
hope this makes sense