"What makes you think I want to be looked at?"

Acrylic-bob · 27-09-2005, 04:46

In what has to be the stupidest and most mind-numbing example of it's type, The Royal Calderdale Hospital has decided to implement the following guidelines:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4284522.stm

Am I alone in thinking that there are a great many people out there with too little to do with their time?

lettie · 27-09-2005, 05:15

It is important for visiting on neonatal units to be restricted due to infection control. Premature babies cannot fight infections and they are often fatal. This human rights rubbish takes the biscuit though, and should not be used as a reason to keep people away from the babies. They should just tell the truth and say that you can't wander around in here, visiting other babies. Visit your own baby and stay by your own cot.... It tends not to be the parents of prem babies who wander around cooing at the others, it is more likely to be the other visitors. Visiting is very restricted in our local units. The parents can visit any time, other visitors have to be accompanied by one of the parents and are not allowed into the neonatal unit without them.

People often ask questions about babies. "Is that baby alright?" "What's wrong with that baby?" If the staff are doing their jobs right, confidentiality will be maintained.

Acrylic-bob · 27-09-2005, 06:07

I can understand the need to isolate premature babies from members of the visiting public; that much would appear to be common sense. But I cannot see that such isolation needs to be extended to all babies. The PC tripe is, simply, unecessary and actually quite offensive.

WillowTheWhisp · 27-09-2005, 06:59

I've never known anyone who treated a new born baby like a tin of beans but it takes all sorts.

If people ask stupid questions such as "What's wrong with that one?" when it's none of their business then they should be quite clearly told that it's none of their business. I'd be thoroughly disgusted by someone having that sort of attitude. Do hospital visitors ask the same sort of questions of adult patients?

Perhaps visitors sometimes see a mother and baby with no visitors and the one they've come to visit has other visitors so they go across to admire the other baby. It's a sort of natural human reaction to look at a new baby. I know I do that if I meet someone pushing a pram. If U stop to talk to the mother, I look at the baby and remark on how gorgeous he/she is. I don't know anyone who objects to their baby being coo-ed at and admired.

But I do see the point about infection when the babies are vulnerable. It just sounds like a good idea gone a bit OTT.

Less · 27-09-2005, 10:45

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I've never known anyone who treated a new born baby like a tin of beans but it takes all sorts.

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They do Willow not so often here, but in Germany for example some of the babies get called Heinz!

chav1 · 27-09-2005, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Less

They do Willow not so often here, but in Germany for example some of the babies get called Heinz!

jesus i just spat coffee over my monitor lol

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A West Yorkshire hospital has banned visitors from cooing at new-born babies over fears their human rights are being breached and to reduce infection.

i do think this is a little too far but i agree with some of it in part..

when my son was born the father of the baby of the woman next to my baby turned up sneezing , coughing and sniveling all over the place and in my opinion anyone turning up to a maternity ward with a cold/flu should be refused entery and if persistant executed

as for human rights of the child dont they think our children have too many rights as it is we cant smack them , we cant upset them and now we cant even hold them if the PC brigade get their way

cashman · 27-09-2005, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Less

They do Willow not so often here, but in Germany for example some of the babies get called Heinz!

thats got to be the crack of the month- nice one less.

as for the statement! what do you expect from yorkshire?

entwisi · 27-09-2005, 12:13

Hasn't this hospital been in teh news recently for something else? I seem to recall another episode of stupidity

harwood red · 27-09-2005, 12:31

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Originally Posted by cashman

thats got to be the crack of the month- nice one less.

as for the statement! what do you expect from yorkshire?

WATCH IT!!!

vorlon24 · 27-09-2005, 15:15

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Hasn't this hospital been in teh news recently for something else? I seem to recall another episode of stupidity

It makes you wonder how we ever survived, doesn't it

lettie · 27-09-2005, 15:28

I quite agree that the issue of the human rights thing is complete tripe and smacks of somebody coming up with a plan in order to justify their salary. The NHS is full of people making up useless policies in order to justify their pay. Did you know that a lot of Trusts now have managers for Ethnicity and Diversity.......... Why???????

SPUGGIE J · 27-09-2005, 15:39

Babies need protection from bugs and all that especially if they are premeture but there has to be a line drawn somewere. As for the managers that have the resposibility of Ethnicity and Diversity then who the hell come up with it ome PC pain. For the money these people get could be spent on preventative measures instead of some jumped up desk jockey. Again it is the weak and vunrable that suffer and the people that should care dont.

pendy · 29-09-2005, 16:58

Just another example of NHS idiocy. It is absolutely true that managers have to justify their existence somehow, and generally they are so bl**dy useless that it's only stuff like this that they can come up with.

When I was at the Royal Free, we got a new Orthopaedic Consultant. She and I went through the waiting list and wrote to/telephoned every patient on the list asking if they still wanted their operation and what was their current situation. Amazingly, a large number of them said no, they were fine, couldn't be bothered to have the op. By dint of careful consideration of theatre time, in six months we cut the list from 18 months to 6 months.

The NHS paid a bonus. Who to? - not the consultant, not the registrars, or support staff - no, to the useless line manager who didn't even know this project had taken place! He actually had the gall to come to my office, thank me, and ask me what the project was that he had got his bonus for!!!!

(And no, the tight b*****d didn't even buy any of us a drink!)