What tugs at your heartstrings? - Page 8

garinda · 13-11-2011, 00:15

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Originally Posted by cashman

Hey i,m a great fan of europeans having lived yon meself,on a couple of occasions in different countries, but seems to me the "Club" is unworkable fer many reasons,

Me too.

I love Europe. I planned to move there, and live in a tiny cottage in Brittany. A mad old Englishman, painting paintings he'd exchange for wine, till he contentedly dropped down dead of old age.

All the many different cultures on our doorstep. Fantastic. We're so lucky.

Do I think the political body that the E.U. has become, is good for Britain, and will be in the long-term?

No, not in a thousand years.

mobertol · 13-11-2011, 00:21

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Originally Posted by garinda

All the many different cultures on our doorstep. Fantastic. We're so lucky.

Do I think the political body that the E.U. has become, is good for Britain, and will be in the long-term?

No, not in a thousand years.

Of course i agree .....it's not good for most of the original Common Market countries either -they're all in a mess one way or another.

PS if you have paintings to exchange I have a very good stock of home-bottled wine!

Margaret Pilkington · 13-11-2011, 10:24

You do not need to be in the club(the EU) to be friends....and I think things would be much friendlier if the bonds were loosened(or even) broken. You cannot force people to be your friends(any more than you can force someone to love you)....and this kind of friendship isn't the kind that Facebook has....it is the friendship of mutual respect for one another.....for the differences in culture, differences in the way people live their lives. It is a cameraderie where people help one another during hard times, purely because they are friends .......not because someone in a faceless bureaucratic dimension tells them that they must do this.

While I am sorry if our discussions have caused you some upset, I think you have to be a realist and see that the will of the few is being imposed on many.......and they do not like it, but are given no course of redress.
If I chose to live in Europe, then I would have to live by their rules. It doesn't mean I would have to wear blinkers and ignore where Europe is being the bully.

If I were younger, I would move out of the northern hemisphere for good. There is no way that I can envisage Australia being called Europe.

jaysay · 13-11-2011, 10:56

Ain't it marvelous how this thread has gone from things that tug at your heart strings to soddin Europe

Margaret Pilkington · 13-11-2011, 11:56

sorry John...my fault, but I was aided and abetted by Mobertol and G.

garinda · 13-11-2011, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

sorry John...my fault, but I was aided and abetted by Mobertol and G.

Excuse me.

It was Gina Loopybrigida, who started the thread wander.

Margaret Pilkington · 13-11-2011, 12:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

Me too.

I love Europe. I planned to move there, and live in a tiny cottage in Brittany. A mad old Englishman, painting paintings he'd exchange for wine, till he contentedly dropped down dead of old age.

All the many different cultures on our doorstep. Fantastic. We're so lucky.

Do I think the political body that the E.U. has become, is good for Britain, and will be in the long-term?

No, not in a thousand years.

You helped G too.......look at the last two sentences.

They say that misery loves comapany...and so does guilt and blame.

jaysay · 13-11-2011, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

sorry John...my fault, but I was aided and abetted by Mobertol and G.

Ya the three musketeers

Margaret Pilkington · 13-11-2011, 12:27

Oh No John...can't have that.......they were European weren't they?
Please think of another analogy........I prefer Art, Bart and Fargo.

Wynonie Harris · 13-11-2011, 12:30

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Originally Posted by mobertol

I have lived in Europe for half my life - and when I see you all attacking it, it makes me feel exactly the same way even though i feel that i am nothing but British at heart. I will stop here as i can't get any more words out at the moment...may pick up the thread later....sorry.

Well, prepare for plenty more upsets then, because I'll carry on attacking the EU, while there's a breath left in my body!

jaysay · 13-11-2011, 12:35

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Well, prepare for plenty more upsets then, because I'll carry on attacking the EU, while there's a breath left in my body!

I have now joined the Wynonie fan club on Europe

Margaret Pilkington · 13-11-2011, 12:41

That makes at least three of us then.

jaysay · 13-11-2011, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That makes at least three of us then.

And would think considerably more

garinda · 13-11-2011, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

You helped G too.......look at the last two sentences.

They say that misery loves comapany...and so does guilt and blame.

No, it was definitely Gina L, in post 89, perhaps feeling a little torn, who brought Europe into the thread.

We just came to the party, to keep her company.

Margaret Pilkington · 13-11-2011, 13:55

Yes, she brought it in alright, but we then went on and expanded it a bit....Cashy helped too.
To be honest, I think the worries of the crisis in Europe are a lot like the last war....we know that what is coming is both unpleasant and life changing....and though we try to put it to the back of our minds, it keeps forcing itself on us.

I don't mind Europe as a neighbour........but I want to keep a wall around the garden that is Britain to keep their big dog from peeing on my roses and their cat from crapping on my carrots.