What would this cost us - Page 4

SPUGGIE J · 15-11-2005, 18:36

More sense comes from this site than the council could ever hope to have. Mabe we should set up a school for them? Ermm maybe not cant educate those who dont want to be educated.

Gayle · 15-11-2005, 19:27

Can't argue with you there A-B although there are a few good 'uns so shouldn't all be tarred by the same brush. Funnily enough most of them are the ones that just get on with it - not the glory hunters! Also, they're swimming through treacle at the moment because of the balance of power on the Council - perhaps next May ................hmmmmm (sighs into the distance).

As for your suggestion, Spuggie, not a bad idea, I think there should be training sessions for Councillors when they're first elected. It's a huge responsibility and without proper guidance it's probably quite easy to go along with the majority - sometimes the majority aren't right and it takes a lot of courage to stand up to them!

Ber999T · 15-11-2005, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by park381

Not true the HBC web site indicates 78% for LCC and 6.7% for Police

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr does that not make 84.6% very nearly 85% i think!!!!!

park381 · 15-11-2005, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ber999T

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr does that not make 84.6% very nearly 85% i think!!!!!

errrrrrrrrrrrrrr yes if you include the 6.7% to the Lancashire Police Authority

park381 · 15-11-2005, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle

As for your suggestion, Spuggie, not a bad idea, I think there should be training sessions for Councillors when they're first elected. It's a huge responsibility and without proper guidance it's probably quite easy to go along with the majority - sometimes the majority aren't right and it takes a lot of courage to stand up to them!

That is the question, do you vote for what you know is right, or do you vote for what your party says is right.

cashman · 15-11-2005, 20:23

absolutely brillant observations A-B, you just cheered me up no end.

Acrylic-bob · 15-11-2005, 20:41

I take your point, Gayle. In a bunch of forty-odd there would have to be one or two good un's. It's just a pity that what they have to say is drowned out by the nic-nacs in Britcliffe's cabinet of curiosities.

I've got money on you NOT being one of the quiet ones.

park381 · 15-11-2005, 20:49

Following on from a-b's observations, lets assume that we had "got rid" of LCC and were now part of a Unitary authority, say Blackburn with Darwen who now look after and administer all services including education, social services, library services etc. Would you be prepared to pay more through your council tax for that privilege. If we look at the current council tax charges of BwD and HBC we would find that in BwD they pay more in each council tax band, since band D is the base line and all other bands are calculated from D we would see that in band D BwD pay £73.05 more per year, the bottom end of the scale band A would be £48.69 more, the top end of the scale band H would be £146.10 more.
I am not saying I am in favour of the existing 2 tier system, just presenting some facts to the thread.

Acrylic-bob · 15-11-2005, 21:00

If it meant that taxpayer's money was spent responsibly on the needs of the people of the borough as opposed to the scandalous empire building and waste that goes on at County Hall, then yes, I am sure people could be persuaded to part with a bit extra. After all, Blackpool and Blackburn with Darwen don't seem to be doing too badly by being out of the county system and they seem to have few problems in attracting funding from Europe and HMG.

To change the subject slightly, did anyone see the report on yesterday evenings BBC news about two chaps removing those ridiculous "You are now entering/leaving Lancashire" signs that some fool at County Hall has insisted be put on almost all the roads around the two errant boroughs? How much did this example of bureaucratic pique cost taxpayers? And moreover, what point does it serve?

park381 · 15-11-2005, 21:07

Point taken a-b, but where do people find that extra few bob. If Blackpool and BwD are attracting funding from Europe and HMG, why are HBC not doing the same

Gayle · 15-11-2005, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I take your point, Gayle. In a bunch of forty-odd there would have to be one or two good un's. It's just a pity that what they have to say is drowned out by the nic-nacs in Britcliffe's cabinet of curiosities.

I've got money on you NOT being one of the quiet ones.

No, I can't imagine me keeping quiet either! hehe

SPUGGIE J · 15-11-2005, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle

No, I can't imagine me keeping quiet either! hehe

A women quiet with an audience cant see it either.

Get in the chamber then give them what for Gayle.

Acrylic-bob · 15-11-2005, 21:30

Probably the same place they find the hundreds of pounds they spend on Fireworks and tattoos and gel-nails and getting rat-arsed at the weekend; The DSS!

As has been commented on before, the reason why HBC do not do so well in the Official Handouts Stakes is because the ethnic, one-legged, lesbian, dyslexic, single-parent, who usually puts the bids together has been on extended sick leave for the last ten years. I will leave speculation on what he or she is actually sick of to you.

Acrylic-bob · 15-11-2005, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle

No, I can't imagine me keeping quiet either! hehe

Perhaps another name change is in the offing...."Gayle Force"?

Gayle · 15-11-2005, 21:35

What HBC needs in post is a funder finder (this is not a plug for me because it's far too big a job for me to do along with all the other stuff I do - and am hoping to do). Other councils have them and what they do is trawl through all the stuff, in much the same way as I do, and then apply for the funds or pass the forms on to the groups that have the opportunity to apply for them. Then they work with that group to secure the funding.

First job real funder finders have to do is ensure that there is sufficient funding to keep their post open!