What would this cost us

park381 · 13-11-2005, 16:28

An article taken from the Mail on Sunday, if it were to happen what would the cost be to council tax payers

Acrylic-bob · 13-11-2005, 16:46

Lunacy and expensive lunacy at that!

park381 · 13-11-2005, 16:54

Aye, in 74 all the blackburn schools etc. were handed over to Lancashire control, when blackburn with darwen was formed they along with a lot of other buildings were handed back, even the offices I worked in.

SPUGGIE J · 13-11-2005, 18:35

What sits in between the ears of these people a vacumn? It was a pain in the rear when they did this up here and the populus is still paying the price. Lay odds that it will come back and bite them where it hurts the most ie with the voters. Again they have no regard for anything or anyone.

Gayle · 13-11-2005, 19:35

If it ain't broke why try to fix it?????????????

SPUGGIE J · 13-11-2005, 19:39

They have nothing better to do and love messing. They are becoming like nusery kids.

KiTChener · 13-11-2005, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Gayle

If it ain't broke why try to fix it?????????????

Gayle, if this is your philosophy for life, you'll always get my vote!!
In fact, I'm considering moving house, just so I could vote for you!
Couldn't even tell you who (prospective or current) councilor is for my ward!

Best of luck, wish every member of Accyweb could support you.

cashman · 13-11-2005, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Gayle

If it ain't broke why try to fix it?????????????

thats what me @ a few others said gayle when they changed accrington to hyndburn,alas fell on deaf ears.

park381 · 13-11-2005, 20:09

This one is even bigger than Accrington in to Hyndburn, this has already been tabled, not long ago our leader PB was fighting off the challenge of Blackburn with Darwen, saying we would be better off joining with the Ribble Valley, but it's reared it's head again it would seem according to this article. It was only the referendum in the North East that put it on the back burner, the ODPM still thinks "we" would be better off with regional gov. as in Scotland and Wales.

SPUGGIE J · 13-11-2005, 20:51

In some respects regional govenment works in Scotland but in others is a pain in the arther. Living in Scotland has shown me that when reginol govenment goes wrong it goes with a very large bang. Centralising everything does not lead to efficiency or effect action to issues. The power they have has gone to their heads to the point they think they are untouchable.

Doug · 13-11-2005, 21:10

It will be frighteningly expensive and quite unnecessary. It will be an assault on the individual identity of shire people and the rape of our national heritage. We are been wiped off the face of Britain by these idiots. No wonder others feel encouraged to move in and take over.

park381 · 13-11-2005, 22:09

Hows this for a map of "old lancashire"
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/map...ishes-map.html
Where is it now

Graham Jones · 13-11-2005, 23:21

This is a hard debate to have because a lot of people have already made their mind up and the debate will be one sided.

I am TOTALLY in favour of doing away with LCC and two tier councils. Many obvious reasons. HBC is so far in debt and now so diminished it struggles to offer value for money. All the well paid local governemtn jobs are far away at Preston at LCC. With an East Lancs authority there is a fair chance of it being located in/near Hyndburn. JOBS JOBS JOBS. We need a university and not one at Preston, one here. We need the Ribble Valley to encourage tourism. It costs more to run twice the services needed, 2 payroll, 2 corporate services, 2 engineering etc... 85% of Council Tax gets spent at County Hall PRESTON. We should decide more locally what our priorities are. IF the unitary is the same area as Health and Police, we may also be able to join up more ALL services effectively. And finally take donw some of the parochial signs that say exiting Lancashire, entering Blackburn, reentering Lancashire, welcome to Hyndburn. FINALLY we will be able to establish true local democracy for the likes of Rishton and Gt Harwood.
FINALLY FINALLY, we will have LESS councillors on the payroll.

garinda · 14-11-2005, 04:45

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones

All the well paid local governemtn jobs are far away at Preston at LCC.

Graham, that is rubbish. Someone I know works for HBC as an acountant, I know what their salary is, and more to the point I know what their boss earns, and it is approximatly four times the national average wage, and God knows what multiple it is of the average salary in Hyndburn.

park381 · 14-11-2005, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones

This is a hard debate to have because a lot of people have already made their mind up and the debate will be one sided.
I am TOTALLY in favour of doing away with LCC and two tier councils

Not true Graham, I am open minded about the whole thing. I used to work for LCC, first in Darwen, then Blackburn, and finally in the Globe centre, in a section of the Globe that LCC helped to pay for.

If there were guarantees that my council tax would not increase because of the change, and that services would improve, then I may say yes, but that would not be the case. Empire building is a term that springs to mind.