when all this is over....

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Me too Dorothy....and there will be enough to stuff a sofa( ok, maybe I am gilding the lily.....not a sofa but an easy chair).
Himself offered his services.....but I have only once let him loose on my Barnet with scissors.
It looked like I had lost the fight with a garden trimmer......I think it was the first(and last) geometric cut I ever had.....one side was up, the other down......and the edges were not even straight....it looked like it had been done by Braille.

So I won't be letting him touch the scissors.

Now, now, I'm sure he was trying his best!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Goodness Less....that is NEAT next to what he did to my hair.

I have to tell you it was over fifty years ago when the rosy blush of romance was still strong....but it still took some forgiving.
It is just a good job that at the time I knew nothing of the powers of cut chilliest, or fibreglass insulating material.
Had I been more worldly wise he would have suffered.

[Less]

Things must be getting back to normal, this is the second day in a row I've had junk mail through the letterbox.

[Jimmy Clitheroe]

Originally Posted by Less

They want to eliminate cash altogether then every aspect of your life...everything you buy, everywhere you go, how you dress, how you have your hair done.... every single aspect of your life all on file. Cash is one of the few remaining levellers that gives us the freedom to go where we want and buy what we want without someone making a record of it. We should never give it up without an almighty fight.

Apologies - seem to be getting in a rant mode stuck indoors would rename meself Victor Meldrew if I wasn't such a shortarse.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe

They want to eliminate cash altogether then every aspect of your life...everything you buy, everywhere you go, how you dress, how you have your hair done.... every single aspect of your life all on file. Cash is one of the few remaining levellers that gives us the freedom to go where we want and buy what we want without someone making a record of it. We should never give it up without an almighty fight.

Apologies - seem to be getting in a rant mode stuck indoors would rename meself Victor Meldrew if I wasn't such a shortarse.

Ah, but who wishes to eliminate cash?
If it's the more affluent in society then they have been doing that for generations, it's called starvation wages a system still foolishly employed in many of the third world countries even today.

[Margaret Pilkington]

The banks want to eliminate the use of cash because card transactions make them money.
The government want to eliminate the use of cash because cash does not leave a trail.....you are tracked when you use a card...your purchasing habits can be sold on to companies that will target you on your past purchases.

Jimmy...I agree with every word...and I do not consider it a rant.

[dotti34]

A completely cashless society would not work. For instance, during those dreadful bushfires in Australia all the ATMs were down and only people with actual CASH were able to purchase petrol to get them out of the area...those bits of plastic were absolutely useless. There's been a few times when the power has gone off and the people who have forsaken cash for card were left completely lost, you could say they were powerless (pardon the pun), same thing when ATMs have been 'down', especially out-of-hours. So for practical purposes alone it would be ridiculous to eliminate using cash.....
...and yes, if it wasn't beneficial for them the banks wouldn't be pushing the issue.

[Jimmy Clitheroe]

Originally Posted by dotti34

A completely cashless society would not work. For instance, during those dreadful bushfires in Australia all the ATMs were down and only people with actual CASH were able to purchase petrol to get them out of the area...those bits of plastic were absolutely useless. There's been a few times when the power has gone off and the people who have forsaken cash for card were left completely lost, you could say they were powerless (pardon the pun), same thing when ATMs have been 'down', especially out-of-hours. So for practical purposes alone it would be ridiculous to eliminate using cash.....
...and yes, if it wasn't beneficial for them the banks wouldn't be pushing the issue.

You get lots of (mainly younger) folk who believe cash to be old hat and so 'last century' and don't seem to mind about their whole purchasing, travelling, medical history belonging to some credit company and by default in the near future to the Chinese Communist Party. We already get 'ads' targeting us based on viewing history - carrying on along the same vein they will end up making ALL decisions for us.

[Hill Walker]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe

We already get 'ads' targeting us based on viewing history - carrying on along the same vein they will end up making ALL decisions for us.

I take it that you don't like the obvious next step where instead of product adverts being targeted at you, you simply get a receipt and the product.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe

You get lots of (mainly younger) folk who believe cash to be old hat and so 'last century' and don't seem to mind about their whole purchasing, travelling, medical history belonging to some credit company and by default in the near future to the Chinese Communist Party. We already get 'ads' targeting us based on viewing history - carrying on along the same vein they will end up making ALL decisions for us.

yeh mean those who know it all, but know nowt?? i was one myself once.

[Margaret Pilkington]

And paying with an app on your phone.....what is that all about.
I would not trust the security of a phone to do either my banking or my shopping.
I will consider a smart phone when it will load the washer, put the washing on the line, iron it and put it awayuntil then I will continue with bits of paper (although they are plastic now aren't they) with the queens head on them.

A cashless society also penalises those who are poor and have either no bank account or one where they do not qualify for a debit card because of a poor credit score.

[dotti34]

My son and daughter-in-law went out for dinner a little while ago and though they usually use plastic to pay (as most young ones do) they had some cash in the house so they thought they would use that instead. When the waitress brought the little machine for their card they gave her cash instead - she looked bemused and didn't seem like she knew what to do with it. Apparently none of her customers had ever used actual cash.

[monkey hanger]

if its called smart ignore it. if they want card trasactions resist it. big brother is certainly watching you in more than one form. used to trust people far more than i do now. i,ve got to a stage where i consider everything and everyone as a scam and its their difficult job to persuade me that it isn,t one. her indoors as well as me have been scammed once and its our lifetime ambition to make sure it does not happen again.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe

You get lots of (mainly younger) folk who believe cash to be old hat and so 'last century' and don't seem to mind about their whole purchasing, travelling, medical history belonging to some credit company and by default in the near future to the Chinese Communist Party. We already get 'ads' targeting us based on viewing history - carrying on along the same vein they will end up making ALL decisions for us.

they think its being clever and flash to do it. giving an impression they have more than they actually have.

[Less]

Touching on the subject of hair, I'm at the age where preening in front of the mirror is a no, no for me, so when I caught a glimpse of myself after 5 weeks of social avoidance, I was suprised at the length both my hair and my beard have now reached (in fact I'm beginning to suspect there could be birds nesting in my beard).
The most shocking growth however has to be my eyebrows, another 2 inches and I may well be tripping over them.
I think I'll move hairdressing up my priority list and therefore do it myself in the next month or so.