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Old 26-01-2008, 20:36   #16
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Re: White Men are Banned

is it discriminatory when marketing people aim their products and services to a certain clientele?
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Old 26-01-2008, 20:38   #17
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It sounds discriminatory but I understand what you mean Gayle. What they are doing is aiming the awareness at people who may not otherwise have taken an interest but when it comes down to filling the jobs surely what matters is who is best suited to the task, not the colour of their skin, where their granny was born or whether they are male or female.
Absolutely agree with you Willow - the right person should get the job.

I disagree with discrimination and positive discrimination - I would (and have) objected to women only lists etc.
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Old 26-01-2008, 20:52   #18
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is it discriminatory when marketing people aim their products and services to a certain clientele?
maybe thats why most TV ads in the U.S. for KFC and McDonalds feature Black familys and most ads for Viagra and such feature White males
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Old 26-01-2008, 22:11   #19
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It’s nowt new, the Police were at this caper in 2006, maybe it’s the pressures laid down by government to get more women and ethnic workers in public service. Discrimination against the white populous is not the way to go foreword. Where is this pressure coming from ? Is it perceived, is it from Government, from an expectancy of society, Europe ? I ask because I don’t know.
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Old 26-01-2008, 22:57   #20
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I remember years back some fire departments had this politically correct situation. they were "encouraged" to hire more women. They even made them relax some of the more "mundane" physical tests i.e.:

Every fireman had to be able to carry a 150 pound person down a ladder. Since many of the lady recruits were not physically able to do this, they were allowed to take 2 runs at it. each time they proved themselves by carrying 75 lbs down the ladder.

Which is fine if they cut the normal fire victim in half eh? LOL To try to explain why this was okay: If there is a need to carry someone down a ladder, one of the guys can do it!

In my opinion, there are just some professions that should be off limits to this kind of radical politcal correctness.

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Old 26-01-2008, 23:07   #21
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I remember years back some fire departments had this politically correct situation. they were "encouraged" to hire more women. They even made them relax some of the more "mundane" physical tests i.e.:

Every fireman had to be able to carry a 150 pound person down a ladder. Since many of the lady recruits were not physically able to do this, they were allowed to take 2 runs at it. each time they proved themselves by carrying 75 lbs down the ladder.

Which is fine if they cut the normal fire victim in half eh? LOL To try to explain why this was okay: If there is a need to carry someone down a ladder, one of the guys can do it!

In my opinion, there are just some professions that should be off limits to this kind of radical politcal correctness.

Brian

Any form of discrimination is frowned upon by most of us, racism, sexism, ageism…but to employ someone who is physically unable to carry out a prime role in a job, is sheer stupidity.
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Old 27-01-2008, 00:04   #22
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All positive discrimination is wrong, in my opinion.

There is inevitabely always a backlash when it is practised.

Since careers advice, education and training in this country is quite rightly open to everyone, regardless of colour, creed, or gender, there really is no need for this sort of initiative.

It's patronising, and counterproductive.

Perhaps the majority of people who are being targeted, just don't fancy working for the fire service.
exactly its completely stupid, all things like this do is give fuel to the BNP and they are too up there own arses to see it.
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Old 27-01-2008, 00:06   #23
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I remember years back some fire departments had this politically correct situation. they were "encouraged" to hire more women. They even made them relax some of the more "mundane" physical tests i.e.:

Every fireman had to be able to carry a 150 pound person down a ladder. Since many of the lady recruits were not physically able to do this, they were allowed to take 2 runs at it. each time they proved themselves by carrying 75 lbs down the ladder.

Which is fine if they cut the normal fire victim in half eh? LOL To try to explain why this was okay: If there is a need to carry someone down a ladder, one of the guys can do it!

In my opinion, there are just some professions that should be off limits to this kind of radical politcal correctness.

Brian
Similar situation here with the local police , ethnic recruits are exempt from having to complete a swimming test to qualify for the training academy .....it may have something to do with buoyancy
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Old 27-01-2008, 00:31   #24
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Similar situation here with the local police , ethnic recruits are exempt from having to complete a swimming test to qualify for the training academy .....it may have something to do with buoyancy
Black folk dont float right good ????
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Old 27-01-2008, 18:52   #25
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job vacancey if your british born and bread please dont aplie
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Old 27-01-2008, 19:07   #26
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the government lay the guidelines down and the fireservice just like the police have to take on so many ethnic minoritys per year, otherwise they come across as racist, which is totally wrong regardles of colour, sex, age etc if you are the best person for the job its yours, or thats how it should be.
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Old 27-01-2008, 19:25   #27
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Old 28-01-2008, 23:04   #28
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I bet the fire service is an Equal Opportunities Employer - in which case they should also be employing a quota of disabled people!
Do we care who carries us down the ladder if our house is burning - I don't as long as he is big, male and can speak english....................!
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Old 28-01-2008, 23:09   #29
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I bet the fire service is an Equal Opportunities Employer - in which case they should also be employing a quota of disabled people!
Do we care who carries us down the ladder if our house is burning - I don't as long as he is big, male and can speak english....................!
Preferably with two arms and two legs tho
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Old 28-01-2008, 23:21   #30
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Bit difficult to get a wheelchair up one of them ladders.
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