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26-01-2008, 20:36
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Re: White Men are Banned
is it discriminatory when marketing people aim their products and services to a certain clientele?
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26-01-2008, 20:38
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Re: White Men are Banned
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It sounds discriminatory but I understand what you mean Gayle. What they are doing is aiming the awareness at people who may not otherwise have taken an interest but when it comes down to filling the jobs surely what matters is who is best suited to the task, not the colour of their skin, where their granny was born or whether they are male or female.
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Absolutely agree with you Willow - the right person should get the job.
I disagree with discrimination and positive discrimination - I would (and have) objected to women only lists etc.
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26-01-2008, 20:52
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Re: White Men are Banned
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is it discriminatory when marketing people aim their products and services to a certain clientele?
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maybe thats why most TV ads in the U.S. for KFC and McDonalds feature Black familys and most ads for Viagra and such feature White males
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26-01-2008, 22:11
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Re: White Men are Banned
It’s nowt new, the Police were at this caper in 2006, maybe it’s the pressures laid down by government to get more women and ethnic workers in public service. Discrimination against the white populous is not the way to go foreword. Where is this pressure coming from ? Is it perceived, is it from Government, from an expectancy of society, Europe ? I ask because I don’t know.
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26-01-2008, 22:57
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Re: White Men are Banned
I remember years back some fire departments had this politically correct situation. they were "encouraged" to hire more women. They even made them relax some of the more "mundane" physical tests i.e.:
Every fireman had to be able to carry a 150 pound person down a ladder. Since many of the lady recruits were not physically able to do this, they were allowed to take 2 runs at it. each time they proved themselves by carrying 75 lbs down the ladder.
Which is fine if they cut the normal fire victim in half eh? LOL To try to explain why this was okay: If there is a need to carry someone down a ladder, one of the guys can do it!
In my opinion, there are just some professions that should be off limits to this kind of radical politcal correctness.
Brian
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26-01-2008, 23:07
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Re: White Men are Banned
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I remember years back some fire departments had this politically correct situation. they were "encouraged" to hire more women. They even made them relax some of the more "mundane" physical tests i.e.:
Every fireman had to be able to carry a 150 pound person down a ladder. Since many of the lady recruits were not physically able to do this, they were allowed to take 2 runs at it. each time they proved themselves by carrying 75 lbs down the ladder.
Which is fine if they cut the normal fire victim in half eh? LOL To try to explain why this was okay: If there is a need to carry someone down a ladder, one of the guys can do it!
In my opinion, there are just some professions that should be off limits to this kind of radical politcal correctness.
Brian
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Any form of discrimination is frowned upon by most of us, racism, sexism, ageism…but to employ someone who is physically unable to carry out a prime role in a job, is sheer stupidity.
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27-01-2008, 00:04
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Re: White Men are Banned
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All positive discrimination is wrong, in my opinion.
There is inevitabely always a backlash when it is practised.
Since careers advice, education and training in this country is quite rightly open to everyone, regardless of colour, creed, or gender, there really is no need for this sort of initiative.
It's patronising, and counterproductive.
Perhaps the majority of people who are being targeted, just don't fancy working for the fire service.
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exactly its completely stupid, all things like this do is give fuel to the BNP and they are too up there own arses to see it.
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27-01-2008, 00:06
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Re: White Men are Banned
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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee
I remember years back some fire departments had this politically correct situation. they were "encouraged" to hire more women. They even made them relax some of the more "mundane" physical tests i.e.:
Every fireman had to be able to carry a 150 pound person down a ladder. Since many of the lady recruits were not physically able to do this, they were allowed to take 2 runs at it. each time they proved themselves by carrying 75 lbs down the ladder.
Which is fine if they cut the normal fire victim in half eh? LOL To try to explain why this was okay: If there is a need to carry someone down a ladder, one of the guys can do it!
In my opinion, there are just some professions that should be off limits to this kind of radical politcal correctness.
Brian
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Similar situation here with the local police , ethnic recruits are exempt from having to complete a swimming test to qualify for the training academy .....it may have something to do with buoyancy
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27-01-2008, 00:31
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Re: White Men are Banned
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Similar situation here with the local police , ethnic recruits are exempt from having to complete a swimming test to qualify for the training academy .....it may have something to do with buoyancy
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Black folk dont float right good ????
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27-01-2008, 18:52
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Re: White Men are Banned
job vacancey if your british born and bread please dont aplie
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27-01-2008, 19:07
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Re: White Men are Banned
the government lay the guidelines down and the fireservice just like the police have to take on so many ethnic minoritys per year, otherwise they come across as racist, which is totally wrong regardles of colour, sex, age etc if you are the best person for the job its yours, or thats how it should be.
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27-01-2008, 19:25
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Re: White Men are Banned
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job vacancey if your british born and bread please dont aplie
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28-01-2008, 23:04
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Re: White Men are Banned
I bet the fire service is an Equal Opportunities Employer - in which case they should also be employing a quota of disabled people!
Do we care who carries us down the ladder if our house is burning - I don't as long as he is big, male and can speak english....................!
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28-01-2008, 23:09
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Re: White Men are Banned
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I bet the fire service is an Equal Opportunities Employer - in which case they should also be employing a quota of disabled people!
Do we care who carries us down the ladder if our house is burning - I don't as long as he is big, male and can speak english....................!
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Preferably with two arms and two legs tho
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28-01-2008, 23:21
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Re: White Men are Banned
Bit difficult to get a wheelchair up one of them ladders.
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