White Men are Banned

park381 · 26-01-2008, 18:08

What are they thinking about. If you are ethnic or female you can join

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derekgas · 26-01-2008, 18:26

Shocking, but not surprising!

jackyalex · 26-01-2008, 18:26

i watched a programme not so long ago about firfighters in the uk, one fireman said when there is a job opening they are inundated with applications from all over the uk, there are more than enough people already needing these jobs why rule out certain people when there isnt enough jobs for the people who want them

andrewb · 26-01-2008, 18:34

Positive discrimination was used to elect more women candidates for Labour too. It is absolutely ridiculous.

Gayle · 26-01-2008, 18:37

Please read the story again. There was no question of discrimination and they are not saying that men can not apply for the fire service. They are not ruling men out from applying! All the open days were, were marketed at minority groups to encourage them to apply as well as white men.

derekgas · 26-01-2008, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Please read the story again. There was no question of discrimination and they are not saying that men can not apply for the fire service. They are not ruling men out from applying! All the open days were, were marketed at minority groups to encourage them to apply as well as white men.

But we know that, in reality, they want more women, and in particular, more ethnics, it is rife in all the services.

Neil · 26-01-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Please read the story again......All the open days were marketed at minority groups to encourage them to apply as well as white men.

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The bosses held five open days to attract new recruits – with four strictly limited to either women, ethnic minorities or both. They insisted they had acted lawfully.

I read it again. This bit "with four strictly limited to either women, ethnic minorities or both" is wrong.

mani · 26-01-2008, 20:27

*L*

the point i was gonna make gayle. people's reactions are as if they've said no they cant join - its just more awareness in those communities

the army used to hold a few these with us in school i rmemeber gettin all the asians together and giving them talks...

Gayle · 26-01-2008, 20:28

Marketing something to different demographics is an age old technique to sell more things. They are NOT excluding white men from joining the fire service they are simply trying to market it to women and ethnic minorities.

Bonnyboy · 26-01-2008, 20:30

Avon Fire Service are plainly wrong, however well intended, it was poor judgement.

garinda · 26-01-2008, 20:31

All positive discrimination is wrong, in my opinion.

There is inevitabely always a backlash when it is practised.

Since careers advice, education and training in this country is quite rightly open to everyone, regardless of colour, creed, or gender, there really is no need for this sort of initiative.

It's patronising, and counterproductive.

Perhaps the majority of people who are being targeted, just don't fancy working for the fire service.

WillowTheWhisp · 26-01-2008, 20:32

It sounds discriminatory but I understand what you mean Gayle. What they are doing is aiming the awareness at people who may not otherwise have taken an interest but when it comes down to filling the jobs surely what matters is who is best suited to the task, not the colour of their skin, where their granny was born or whether they are male or female.

garinda · 26-01-2008, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Avon Fire Service are plainly wrong, however well intended, it was poor judgement.

It was Avon fire service that last year were reprimanded by the courts for shining their torches on 'doggers', whilst supposedly on duty.

Gayle · 26-01-2008, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Avon Fire Service are plainly wrong, however well intended, it was poor judgement.

As it happens, I completely agree with you. I also think that the Daily Express has done an exceptional job of scaremongering again - 'white men are so downtrodden, they're being pushed out their own country, women and ethnic minorities will be taking over'.

Bonnyboy · 26-01-2008, 20:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

It was Avon fire service that last year were reprimanded by the courts for shining their torches on 'doggers', whilst supposedly on duty.

Flippin' heck, I never heard about that. Thoses firemen really do have initiative