White Wash at Westminster - Page 2

Mancie · 02-02-2010, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Stumped

Today we have experienced a breath of fresh air, courtesy of Claire Short. At long last, an honest politician has emerged to expose the lies and deception of B'Liar and his lick-spittle cronies. No doubt she will be submitted to the usual degree of villification by the Labour supporting press, but bravo Claire and well done.

Labour supporting press ?

.. do tell us what press you are talking about

Wynonie Harris · 02-02-2010, 21:27

She certainly told it like it is! Nice to see a politician have the courage of her convictions.

What do the Labour party Accyweb members think of her performance?...Graham, Bernard, Claytonender?

Mancie · 02-02-2010, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

She certainly told it like it is! Nice to see a politician have the courage of her convictions.

What do the Labour party Accyweb members think of her performance?...Graham, Bernard, Claytonender?

I ain't a member but I say Claire Short has said no more than when she resigned..it's never been a secret that she disagreed with the war and I can't understand why people think it's some sort of relevlation.. Ms Short always had a problem with "New Labour" .. she likes things to be done her way and when it ain't she whines.

Stumped · 02-02-2010, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Labour supporting press ?

.. do tell us what press you are talking about

Blowhards like you should be able to reel them off pat, without my having to point you in the right direction.

Mancie · 02-02-2010, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Stumped

Blowhards like you should be able to reel them off pat, without my having to point you in the right direction.

I don't know what you are on about.. what section of the press is Labour supporting?..and blowhard is pretty rich coming from a Tory rent boy

Stumped · 02-02-2010, 22:43

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I don't know what you are on about.. what section of the press is Labour supporting?..and blowhard is pretty rich coming from a Tory rent boy

Grow up, son. Strikes me we've been here before, and I am still firmly of the opinion that the current bunch of politicians of whatever ilk are unworthy to wipe the backside of past 'statesmen'. We need another Churchill, but I doubt we'll ever see the likes of him again.

Wynonie Harris · 02-02-2010, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I ain't a member but I say Claire Short has said no more than when she resigned..it's never been a secret that she disagreed with the war and I can't understand why people think it's some sort of relevlation.. Ms Short always had a problem with "New Labour" .. she likes things to be done her way and when it ain't she whines.

Yep, she's always had those views, but she's faded into the background for quite awhile now. It's like a breath of fresh air to hear a political figure saying what they really think, amidst the deluge of mundanity and carefully-rehearsed soundbites we've endured at this enquiry. I don't agree with everything she says, but she's head and shoulders above the likes of Alastair Campbell.

The Accyweb Labour crew are very quiet, aren't they?

Stumped · 02-02-2010, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Yep, she's always had those views, but she's faded into the background for quite awhile now. It's like a breath of fresh air to hear a political figure saying what they really think, amidst the deluge of mundanity and carefully-rehearsed soundbites we've endured at this enquiry. I don't agree with everything she says, but she's head and shoulders above the likes of Alastair Campbell.

The Accyweb Labour crew are very quiet, aren't they?

No surprises there, though the Tory lot have good reason to stay out of the limelight with the fraud allegations they are currently faced with. Might shut Britcliffe's trap for a while and keep his ugly mug out of the Observer!

What are the odds on the Lib-Dem's forming the next Hyndburn Council as the past Labour/Tory administrations have both let the community down badly in one way or another?

Mancie · 02-02-2010, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Stumped

Grow up, son. Strikes me we've been here before, and I am still firmly of the opinion that the current bunch of politicians of whatever ilk are unworthy to wipe the backside of past 'statesmen'. We need another Churchill, but I doubt we'll ever see the likes of him again.

Churchill was over 50yrs ago.. I'd say it's you that needs to "grow up"..politicians good or bad come and go.. if you bring Churchill into the argument then I rekon he would have sent us into Iraq.

Stumped · 02-02-2010, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Churchill was over 50yrs ago.. I'd say it's you that needs to "grow up"..politicians good or bad come and go.. if you bring Churchill into the argument then I rekon he would have sent us into Iraq.

You've had your fun. Isn't it past your bedtime?

Mancie · 02-02-2010, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Yep, she's always had those views, but she's faded into the background for quite awhile now. It's like a breath of fresh air to hear a political figure saying what they really think, amidst the deluge of mundanity and carefully-rehearsed soundbites we've endured at this enquiry. I don't agree with everything she says, but she's head and shoulders above the likes of Alastair Campbell.

The Accyweb Labour crew are very quiet, aren't they?

let's get down to the nitty gritty.. Clair Short is a communist.. now on the one hand the Tories support her when she attacks Labour.. but I doubt she would be welcomed in any new Tory cabinet.

Stumped · 02-02-2010, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Churchill was over 50yrs ago.. I'd say it's you that needs to "grow up"..politicians good or bad come and go.. if you bring Churchill into the argument then I rekon he would have sent us into Iraq.

Indeed Churchill was an inspiring wartime leader - which is exactly my point. He certainly got the job done in Europe, which is more than any of the current bunch can ever hope to achieve in the Middle East.

Mancie · 02-02-2010, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Stumped

You've had your fun. Isn't it past your bedtime?

if you call my concern at the loss of British lives "fun" and bedtime.. then we do have a problem.

Wynonie Harris · 02-02-2010, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Mancie

let's get down to the nitty gritty.. Clair Short is a communist.. now on the one hand the Tories support her when she attacks Labour.. but I doubt she would be welcomed in any new Tory cabinet.

Is she?...I always had her down as an old-fashioned Guardian reading liberal leftie. Of course, the Tories support her when she attacks Labour...even though they supported the invasion...but that's politics for you. It's just good to hear someone with a bit of conviction, after enduring nausea-inducing drivel from the likes of Blair, Campbell and the rest of 'em.

Stumped · 02-02-2010, 23:15

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if you call my concern at the loss of British lives "fun" and bedtime.. then we do have a problem.

The loss of so many decent young men in a fruitless war that we can never win is a great source of regret as you rightly state. But WE invaded their territory on some cocked up political agenda, whereas Herr Hitler was intent on invading us. Therein lies the difference.

At least we can agree on something without getting into the usual degrading exchange of insults.