White Wash at Westminster

[jaysay]

Well Gordon has decide to have a public enquiry about the Gulf War, the only thing is it ain't public, its to be held totally in camera, so that anything controversial won't come out, even them the report won't come out until after the General Election. So much for open and honest Government, the first chance he has and he bottles it. There is no doubt that some parts should me kept in secret, to protect national security, but just what went on in the run up to the war should be open and honest, pigs are flying over Ossy as I write

[Margaret Pilkington]

Come on Jaysay, you are a man of the world....you really didn't expect anything else did you?
It is a farce.......and I hope it will be like the MP's expenses fiasco, that someone will 'leak' information that will allow the truth into the public domain.

[cashman]

Maggie did the same thing wi the "Falklands" Inquiry don't agree wi it, but not surprised ya omitted that fact.

[***Mr D***]

Public Enquiry, Never, we will get told what they want us to know, unless it gets out through other channels.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Maggie did the same thing wi the "Falklands" Inquiry don't agree wi it, but not surprised ya omitted that fact.

The Falklands war was all about OUR Sovereign Territory cashy, Iraq it seems wasn't about WMDs, but the American lust for oil, aided and abetted by Blair in his quest to being World Supremo and good all round egg, pass the sick bowl

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

The Falklands war was all about OUR Sovereign Territory cashy, Iraq it seems wasn't about WMDs, but the American lust for oil, aided and abetted by Blair in his quest to being World Supremo and good all round egg, pass the sick bowl

it was an enquiry into a war, which is what iraq is also, "Both" are being denied from the public domain. i fail to see yer differance, i make excuses fer no party unlike you.

[Eric]

The whole thing about the invasion of Iraq by the US and the Uk (let's cut the bs about the "coalition" ... it wasn't) is really confusing, but I don't think you need an inquiry ... why hash over what was so obviously a contrived excuse for kicking the crap out of a leader whose policies you don't agree with? If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck and swims like a duck, then it's probably a goddamned duck ... you don't need to spend million of bucks trying to prove it's really an elephant. Many countries, my own among them, looked at the same evidence that Britain and the US did, and saw no convincing evidence for the existence of WMDs .... Why? It's not because we are more perceptive .... the evidence, or lack of it, was there for everyone to see .... wide open ... no mystery, no smoke, no mirrors. I can understand why Bush decided on the war, but, for the life of me, I can't see why you Brits went along with it. Were your bullshlt deflectors not working in the weeks running up to the war? I mean, it was so obvious that the war was wrong, a real no-brainer.

And for Jaysay: if there are pigs flying over Ossy, a reinforced umbrella might be in order if you venture outside

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

The whole thing about the invasion of Iraq by the US and the Uk (let's cut the bs about the "coalition" ... it wasn't) is really confusing, but I don't think you need an inquiry ... why hash over what was so obviously a contrived excuse for kicking the crap out of a leader whose policies you don't agree with? If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck and swims like a duck, then it's probably a goddamned duck ... you don't need to spend million of bucks trying to prove it's really an elephant. Many countries, my own among them, looked at the same evidence that Britain and the US did, and saw no convincing evidence for the existence of WMDs .... Why? It's not because we are more perceptive .... the evidence, or lack of it, was there for everyone to see .... wide open ... no mystery, no smoke, no mirrors. I can understand why Bush decided on the war, but, for the life of me, I can't see why you Brits went along with it. Were your bullshlt deflectors not working in the weeks running up to the war? I mean, it was so obvious that the war was wrong, a real no-brainer.

And for Jaysay: if there are pigs flying over Ossy, a reinforced umbrella might be in order if you venture outside

I'll pass on the brolly Eric and stay indoors I've been dumped on from a great hight far to often

[jaysay]

It appears Lord Butler, the author of the official report into the Gulf War has criticised the governments plans to hold this new enquiry behind closed doors. In a speech to be given in the Lords, the former Cabinet Secretary will say that the government is putting political interests before national interests, it appears he thinks there would be no risk to national security if some aspects have a public element, it seems that this is being back by defence chiefs

[Stumped]

Today we have experienced a breath of fresh air, courtesy of Claire Short. At long last, an honest politician has emerged to expose the lies and deception of B'Liar and his lick-spittle cronies. No doubt she will be submitted to the usual degree of villification by the Labour supporting press, but bravo Claire and well done.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by cashman

Maggie did the same thing wi the "Falklands" Inquiry don't agree wi it, but not surprised ya omitted that fact.

British Sovereign Territory was invaded in the Falklands, somewhat different circumsatnces I am afraid Cashy.

[SPUGGIE J]

Originally Posted by Stumped

Today we have experienced a breath of fresh air, courtesy of Claire Short. At long last, an honest politician has emerged to expose the lies and deception of B'Liar and his lick-spittle cronies. No doubt she will be submitted to the usual degree of villification by the Labour supporting press, but bravo Claire and well done.

A rarity in politics and let rip. Seems that they hoped she would toe the line but underestimated her on this. She has stood by her principals all along and it is a refreshing thing to see and hear.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

British Sovereign Territory was invaded in the Falklands, somewhat different circumsatnces I am afraid Cashy.

maybe different circumstances but I don't see any reason why the Falklands inquiry should have been private and this one not ... this Iraq inqiury seems pretty much public to me seeing that those giving evidence are on the news every night... even when Blair is questioned members of the public will be present.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Stumped

Today we have experienced a breath of fresh air, courtesy of Claire Short. At long last, an honest politician has emerged to expose the lies and deception of B'Liar and his lick-spittle cronies. No doubt she will be submitted to the usual degree of villification by the Labour supporting press, but bravo Claire and well done.

Watched her today, what a difference - a politician saying what they believe to be the truth - ignoring the party line.

[MargaretR]

She is now an Independant - jacked in her labour membership a while back.