Whitebirk Retail Park - Page 13

Margaret Pilkington · 17-01-2014, 16:27

Well, Neil, it isn't good, but I think the Blackburn road entry to town is worse.
It might not be the bumhole of the world, but you can smell it from there!

Neil · 17-01-2014, 16:58

Which part of Blackburn Road do you mean? Down near the new health centre has had a lot of work done already.

Margaret Pilkington · 17-01-2014, 17:50

No, Neil the bit from the bottom of Willows Lane towards Church.
It looks very rundown and unloved.

shillelagh · 18-01-2014, 22:23

well for a change I visited whitebirk today .... I needed a new fridge freezer ... I ended up in preston .... and got it from there .... there was only a currys and a pc world open ....

Neil · 19-01-2014, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No, Neil the bit from the bottom of Willows Lane towards Church.
It looks very rundown and unloved.

Yes that bit isn't nice

Margaret Pilkington · 19-01-2014, 12:02

Neil, you are a master of understatement.

It just does the town no favours at all.
I know that all towns have their less salubrious parts, but this is on a main route into the town.

Guinness · 07-02-2014, 22:19

Get into bed with the devil.....

Blackburn finance chief: 'We don?t want to be an Accrington? (From Lancashire Telegraph)

While our council have been so supportive of BwDC in fighting Whitebirk...this shows exactly how highly thought of HBC are by their Blackburn colleagues. Said it earlier in this thread, Blackburn council has an ulterior motive, Hyndburn council are just there to be used and discarded. (The lib-dems of the anti-Whitebirk coalition)

And what's the comeback from our illustrious leader...'pub talk'...which, when you think about it, is an insult to all us ordinary people who discuss issues over a pint. Classing everyone who chats to their friends about stuff that affects them as 'unthinking boors'..the only thing that surprises me about this story is the lack of an 'I do smile at' quote from Mossy or an 'I know more than you' from Graham Jones.

Miles Parkinson is a damned disgrace (cue implied threat from G.Jones about posting personal attacks resulting in jail time)..how dare he denigrate his electorate in this way..I have a challenge for him...he said 'he is creating jobs'...prove it! Show me these jobs that have been created as a result of his policy, because all I hear at council meetings is guff about betting terminals and various other things better left to parliament and zero about 'job creation'!

When are these muppets going to realise that a retail park at Whitebirk is only detrimental to Blackburn, whilst with reasonable negotiation it could be beneficial to Hyndburn?

Margaret Pilkington · 07-02-2014, 22:39

In answer to your question Guinness......I would say to,you....don't hold your breath!

Guinness · 09-02-2014, 01:01

Surely the council leader wasn't talking in a pub when he told the LT reporter that he was creating jobs?????

Voluntary job losses as Hyndburn Council cuts £800k - Accrington Observer

Alvin the chipmunk · 09-02-2014, 11:06

I saw the article and was initially repulsed. As we all know Blackburn is hardly the metropolitan mega city it dreams of becoming. However it did contain valid points.

What is the long term plan for Accrington that Miles vaguely alludes to? I have seen the town decay rapidly during the last ten to fifteen years and those of a slightly more silver ilk will have seen even further long term decay.

Various councils have failed to invest properly during the "boom" years and we are now reaping the consequences.

At least Blackburn and Burnley are trying to seek investments and both have secured the finances needed for positive changes in their town centers.

"“Hyndburn totally failed to invest in the future of the borough and Accrington town centre for many years.

“The results are plain to see. These are difficult times and we have to invest in the future.”

Can anybody say these comments are incorrect? I wish they were!! Until more higher skilled job opportunities arise then we are stuck in a vicious circle.

Although it should also be noted that Accrington has no intention of ever becoming a Blackburn either!!

Guinness · 14-02-2014, 23:49

Blackburn Poundstretcher shop ordered to shut on 'launch day' (From Lancashire Telegraph)

quote from the piece....'But the store does not have planning permission for food, clothing and shoes, personal care products, or china, fancy goods and giftware, which the council said were spotted on sale during a visit to the premises.The council said it had ‘invested heavily’ in regeneration of Blackburn town centre, and it is unlikely to grant permission retrospectively, leaving 28 jobs at risk.'

So HBC..you still so sure that allying with BwDC regarding Whitebirk is in the interest of Hyndburn? Of course these 28 job losses will have nothing to do with the lobbying power of the owners of The Mall.

The people want it..but hey..the labour council doesn't..stuff the people despite the created jobs, they know nothing, we the labour council know better! 28 people on the dole..a drop in the ocean of a Labour council policy!

Oh wait...black up and dance like idiots...we'll support that frivolity, despite cuts in social welfare, health, motorway lighting and many other essential services...

Britannia Coconut Dancers SAVED by 1847 Act (From Lancashire Telegraph)

All because of an archaic law similar to the the one that says you should only beat your wife with a stick no thicker than your thumb....go figure

Neil · 15-02-2014, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Guinness

Blackburn Poundstretcher shop ordered to shut on 'launch day' (From Lancashire Telegraph)

quote from the piece....'But the store does not have planning permission for food, clothing and shoes, personal care products, or china, fancy goods and giftware, which the council said were spotted on sale during a visit to the premises.The council said it had ‘invested heavily’ in regeneration of Blackburn town centre, and it is unlikely to grant permission retrospectively, leaving 28 jobs at risk.'

Are B with D Council not doing the right thing by upholding planning regulations? The shop owners are at fault opening without the correct planning permission.

Margaret Pilkington · 15-02-2014, 12:00

You are right Neil, but what is wrong with Blackburn with Darwen granting retrospective planning permission?
Might it have something to do with the lobbying power of Tha Mall?

Regeneration of the town centre? Do the council really think that allowing a shop like this which is well away from the town centre will affect the trade in the centre?
Well, obviously...they must do!

Neil · 15-02-2014, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

You are right Neil, but what is wrong with Blackburn with Darwen granting retrospective planning permission?
Might it have something to do with the lobbying power of Tha Mall?

Regeneration of the town centre? Do the council really think that allowing a shop like this which is well away from the town centre will affect the trade in the centre?
Well, obviously...they must do!

Retrospective planning is something that annoys me. It's different if someone like you or I built a shed not knowing we needed planning permission but when a company who have loads of shops failed to get the correct permission it's just negligence by the company and often just trying it on expecting to always get retrospective because jobs are as sake or whatever. Ooops a bit of a never ending sentence

Margaret Pilkington · 15-02-2014, 17:38

I just think the council are being peevish....and if the Mall has lobbied against this company...they are too.
This shopping complex is established......it is close to Asda and all the other shops up in that part of town. I can't see this shop having any great impact on the Shopping Mall.
Blackburn for shopping, is what Arthur Scargill is to peace keeping missions.