who is this Daniel Hannan guy

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

We in the U.S. are fighting hard to defeat such a proposal here. The majority of Americans are opposed and are challenging their representatives at every turn. Most of us still value freedom, I am happy to say.

Sorry Barb, think most working Californians would disagree with you , would be happy if you could let me know where a 61 year old Californian male can purchase Health insurance for less than $750 per month , something that does not EXCLUDE pre-existing conditions .
Since this and previous US Govts. have destroyed the manufacturing base of the country the only folks now who are guaranteed decent health care are Govt./state/County employees ....something the President wants to extend to the folks who actually pay the bills .
Don't agree with the guy on a few things , but on this one I do.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by cashman

only person clutching at straws is you dear boy.understandable given yer belief.

Since I believe in a national health service I don't see any reason for me to clutch and straws! If they were going to make it like the US system I'd be having something to say about it!

[MargaretR]

Docs in USA have a 'licence to kill'
Death by Medicine
Allopathy is the leading cause of death, 783,936 every year in the USA

[Eric]

Originally Posted by cashman

so long as they are white.

... and rich.

[Eric]

If the US system is so goddam good, why is it ranked 37th on the World Health Organization's list of world health systems, just behind Costa Rica Soon, perhaps, we will hear from Barb telling us that the WHO is nothing more than a front for the commies and other assorted pinko liberals.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Since I believe in a national health service I don't see any reason for me to clutch and straws! If they were going to make it like the US system I'd be having something to say about it!

you do andrew, i am aware of that, its those ya have on a pedastal "The Gods" in yer beloved party that don't. n you refuse to see it, either that or yer blind.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

you do andrew, i am aware of that, its those ya have on a pedastal "The Gods" in yer beloved party that don't. n you refuse to see it, either that or yer blind.

Andrew ain't blind Cashy..I reckon he knows, and always has known, that there are people in his party who are out and out thieving con men that consider themselves upper class.. but if you go all in with the Tories you turn a blind eye!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Andrew ain't blind Cashy..I reckon he knows, and always has known, that there are people in his party who are out and out thieving con men that consider themselves upper class.. but if you go all in with the Tories you turn a blind eye!

He's just a rebel.

Opposed to the government of his generation's day.

A rebel who doesn't have the skills to sell his politically naive ideals to many others.

A Rebel Without Applause.

[steeljack]

young Tory/Conservative Daniel Hannan at it again , this time he says Enoch Powell was one of his "hero's" , wonder how Cameron and Party HQ will spin this .
Some of the stuff the guy says makes sense in a populist way, it will be intersting to see if he starts to get as much TV time in the UK as he does in the US

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

...it will be intersting to see if he starts to get as much TV time in the UK as he does in the US

Besides some embarrassing headlines in the press for the Tories to explain, he's getting little or no air time here.

Anyone remotely connected with the European Parliament is a major turn off, both for broadcasters and viewers alike.

[garinda]

Since he was born in the Americas of Anglo-Irish parents, if you want him back, you're very welcome to him.

I'm sure Barb'll find room in her bunker.

[Mancie]

Said it years ago and I'll say again...Cameron is the front for the Tories to regain power.. he will win the next election for the Tories and may serve as head for the first 4yrs years or even 6yrs if they think it is possible to win 2 terms...."they" ..are the real hardcore Tories in the mens clubs down Pall Mall that sort out policy while shwirling...or swilling glasses of brandy.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by garinda

Since he was born in the Americas of Anglo-Irish parents, if you want him back, you're very welcome to him.

I'm sure Barb'll find room in her bunker.

Hannan was born of Anglo-Irish parents living on their farm near Lima, Peru (the centre of one of Peru's largest and most modern poultry businesses;[4] the family estate also included a cotton plantation in Santa Cruz, Bolivia).[5] After spending his childhood in Peru, he was educated at Marlborough College and Oriel College, Oxford, where he studied Modern History.[6] He speaks French and Spanish.[7]

why does this remind me of the Movie "the Boys from Brazil"

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Said it years ago and I'll say again...Cameron is the front for the Tories to regain power.. he will win the next election for the Tories and may serve as head for the first 4yrs years or even 6yrs if they think it is possible to win 2 terms...."they" ..are the real hardcore Tories in the mens clubs down Pall Mall that sort out policy while shwirling...or swilling glasses of brandy.

People said Blair was just a friendly grinning front, that would appeal to cautious middle England, and as soon as they'd conned them into power high taxing socialism would be the order of the day.

It never came.

You want to get yourself up to St. James, nothing politically exciting happens in the clubs on Pall Mall.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

People said Blair was just a friendly grinning front, that would appeal to cautious middle England, and as soon as they'd conned them into power high taxing socialism would be the order of the day.

It never came.

You want to get yourself up to St. James, nothing politically exciting happens in the clubs on Pall Mall.

I would make an attempt Garinda.. but public transport is such an effort these days under Mayor Boris!