Why No Mention?

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

One point here T, was this cop saying they can't do the job they are paid to do n uphold the law? without truncheons n boots? if so i find that rather pathetic.n i would bet many feel the same, i'm sure the framework of the law(watered down as it is now) allows em to take "Legal" action against this scum? its up to the politicians to bring further powers in to sort em once n fer all.

I find it hard to believe the police have been told not to use force when confronted by anyone hell bent on destruction..at Millbank there was outright criminal damage carried out and the totally out numbered police could not do much about it..I can't help but wonder if this government will rethink on thier agenda to cut the police force by 20,000

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Surely what these muslim men were doing is a criminal offence......inciting and stirring up racial unrest....surely the police should have stepped in and either arrested them or cautioned them...but ah no....of course not. That would be seen as racial discrimination.
How is it that racial discrimination is a one way street in the UK?

Got it one Marg, I am disgusted at the way reversed racism is tolerated by us We all read about the proposed burning of the Koran (which as far as we know didn't happen) and the uproar it caused. I had heard that the burning of the Poppy was going to happen but didn't believe it would be tolerated It pains me to see things like this happening but disrespect has been shown for so long that it doesn't surprise me

[steeljack]

re. mention of BBC coverage of the event , not for nothing that many folks around the world think that BBC stands for Black Broadcasting Corporation

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I find it hard to believe the police have been told not to use force when confronted by anyone hell bent on destruction..at Millbank there was outright criminal damage carried out and the totally out numbered police could not do much about it..I can't help but wonder if this government will rethink on thier agenda to cut the police force by 20,000

Perhaps the Intelligence/Planners/Senior Officers responsible for the very low number of officers deployed will be the top of the list for being cut

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Perhaps the Intelligence/Planners/Senior Officers responsible for the very low number of officers deployed will be the top of the list for being cut

You are jesting Barrie its like saying the ones in ivory towers in the health service will also sack themselves, not a snowball in hells chance.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

There were two recent cases, that of Wendy Lewis, and Philip Laing, who whilst drunk, desecrated two different war memorials.

This was headline news on all the TV and radio news programmes.

I do think there is a political agenda at play, as to why the BBC have chosen largely to ignore yesterday's outrage.

Part of the problem is that for years the liberal elite have pandered to minority groups, instead of forcing them to integrate.

Historically wave after wave of people have come to these islands, over the centuries. They still managed to keep their cultural identities, and religious beliefs, but they became part of British society.

State funding should be withdrawn NOW, from every group and organisation that differentiates it's self on religious or racial lines. It's divisive, in that it separates, rather than bringing anyone together.

As Mancie posted, everyone in this country should be free to protest.

However, British citizens should not be legally allowed to call for the deaths of our serving armed forces.

Americas' citizens, one of the most racially diverse countries on the planet, turn incandescent with furious rage if someone burns their flag, yet we sit idly by, whilst what made this country great is quickly being eroded.

The sooner our government realise this, and take into account the views of the vast majority of British people, and ignore the snivelling, idiotic, politically correct, wooly headed, do-gooders, who perpetrate division, the better.

I agree with most of this .... esp. the last sentence But I do have a couple of points. As you are no doubt aware, even though my noisy neighbours do get peed when someone burns their flag, a citizen's right to burn, urinate on, wipe his ass on etc their flag is protected by the First Ammendment. It's offensive, but not illegal. Though I can see, in the poppy burning, elements that go beyond a dispicable action. There is definitely a subversive component.

But I do have problems with the concept of forced integration. There has to be another path, and it is not the one that your government seems to be following now.

[jaysay]

I think the thing that really gets up my nose is the fact that people such as Abu Hamza (Captain Hook) hates our way of life and anything this country stands for yet it doesn't disgust him and his brood living of the backs British tax payer, in a £700,000 house which at the moment is having £40000 of tax payers money spent on it for renovations. Then we have Omar Bakri, although he is living in exile in the Lebanon, his family are stile provided for by the tax payer. It appears that Bakri is not as popular with the lebonese as he is now on the run from the authorities there being convicted of terrorist activity there and sentenced to jail

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Eric

I agree with most of this .... esp. the last sentence But I do have a couple of points. As you are no doubt aware, even though my noisy neighbours do get peed when someone burns their flag, a citizen's right to burn, urinate on, wipe his ass on etc their flag is protected by the First Ammendment. It's offensive, but not illegal. Though I can see, in the poppy burning, elements that go beyond a dispicable action. There is definitely a subversive component.

But I do have problems with the concept of forced integration. There has to be another path, and it is not the one that your government seems to be following now.

Not forced integration.

Stop encouraging separation, by supporting anything that's exclusive to race, or religion.

For example, stop producing every offical form being translated into umpteen different languages. This stops people from learning English.

Put the effort into promoting people to learn the language of the country they're living in, which would help them feel part of society as a whole.

The same with every organisations that are exclusively based on race/religion. Remove funding now. It doesn't achieve anything, other than being divise, and driving a greater wedge between people.

[garinda]

One of my best friend is a Geordie.

She also happens to be Jewish, and her family have been in the northeast for many a long year.

No way would she ever describe herself as a British Jew.

She's a Geordie lass, who happens to be Jewish, and she is happy to be so.

No way does she feel her cultural identity is tarnished by thinking of herself primarily as a Brit.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Not forced integration.

Stop encouraging separation, by supporting anything that's exclusive to race, or religion.

For example, stop producing every offical form being translated into umpteen different languages. This stops people from learning English.

Put the effort into promoting people to learn the language of the country they're living in, which would help them feel part of society as a whole.

The same with every organisations that are exclusively based on race/religion. Remove funding now. It doesn't achieve anything, other than being divise, and driving a greater wedge between people.

There's a hell of a lot of sense in that G

[cmonstanley]

this is part of the poppy display which will be at ibrox today.

[cmonstanley]

heres another pictur all 4 stands are doing it.the black lines have been rectified...

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by steeljack

re. mention of BBC coverage of the event , not for nothing that many folks around the world think that BBC stands for Black Broadcasting Corporation

Spot on. It is very noticeable that whenever BBC News bulletins centre on schools, there is rarely a white pupil to be seen.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Stumped

Spot on. It is very noticeable that whenever BBC News bulletins centre on schools, there is rarely a white pupil to be seen.

Yes, it's about time they realised there are more than two schools in the country.

Eton, and Harrow.

[cmonstanley]

the display at ibrox today you wont see on the news