Wo closed the "Sorry People" Thread, and why? - Page 2

Bagpuss · 19-10-2004, 21:03

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Originally Posted by Darby

I was very surprised to see this thread closed. But slightly annoyed as to: (a) why it had been done and (b) just who decided to close it.

Any answers?

This is happening rather a lot lately and it's all being done anonymously with no reason given. Myself and Bazf where debating the late Brian Clough with Kipax, this was closed before the debate was over, moderators this is very annoying, if you could give a reason it would be appreciated.

WillowTheWhisp · 19-10-2004, 21:10

The reason was apparently given to Princesshales in PM (being that the rest of us didn't like text talk or words to that effect but we were happily posting in the thread weren't we and I enjoyed that very interesting quote from Jack Winter.)

Bagpuss · 19-10-2004, 21:25

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

The reason was apparently given to Princesshales in PM (being that the rest of us didn't like text talk or words to that effect but we were happily posting in the thread weren't we and I enjoyed that very interesting quote from Jack Winter.)

Ok, I read that post from Princesshales but now where has it gone, has it been deleted ?

Bagpuss · 19-10-2004, 21:27

BBK what are you up to, closing threads before the debate is over and deleting posts.

WillowTheWhisp · 19-10-2004, 21:30

It makes JohnW's reply to her look a bit silly too now doesn't it?

Bagpuss · 19-10-2004, 21:32

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

It makes JohnW's reply to her look a bit silly too now doesn't it?

Thank you Willow I thought I was seeing things, anyone know who this BBK is anyway?

Busman747 · 19-10-2004, 22:18

Never come across him/her before, perhaps an intro from BBK is in order as he obviously has "the power!"

Bagpuss · 19-10-2004, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Busman747

Never come across him/her before, perhaps an intro from BBK is in order as he obviously has "the power!"

Come on BBK what have you got to hide from, surely not the members whose posts you are deleting ????

Sparkologist · 19-10-2004, 22:51

I'm sorry to have entered this debate so late on. Having read peoples thoughts and musings on this thread and certain others where the mercury rises, what I would like to see is a system implemented whereby karma cannot be given or subtracted, without the benefactor making themselves known to the recipient; also a reason for the karma transaction should be included. This system would allow people to know the reasons why karma has been issued or detracted, and would preclude the forum degenerating into a squabble and negate a verbal 'night of the long knives'. All I'm asking is for people to stand up and be accountable for their karma convictions, instead of this perceived sniping, in certain instances.

I would also like to see the ability to 'ghost' and be online incognito removed. Do people have something to hide? It is unfair if moderators are online and silent running, in invisible mode, and pulling the plug on posts and sometimes even whole threads, then sitting back leaving the other mods' to cop the flack.

A little bit of honesty and integrity would pay dividends in the form of trust and respect.

What do other Accywebbers feel? Let's have an open and healthy debate, where everyone's opinion is respected, even if it is the polar opposite of your own.

Ok folks... no more Mr Angry impressions from me tonight.

PS. Has anyone found a Dummy, Rattle & Teddy Bear lying round? I seem to have mislaid them.

WillowTheWhisp · 19-10-2004, 22:55

I found a teddy bear at the bottom of the stairs this morning.

On the subject of Karma, mine has behaved oddly just recently. The other day I lost one, went down to 33, then received one so went back up to 34. Now when I look in my profile all record of the one I lost has disappeared and yet my total remains at 34.

How can that be I wonder?

BTW I don't get angry - I just get curious.

Busman747 · 19-10-2004, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Sparkologist

What I would like to see is a system implemented whereby karma cannot be given or subtracted, without the benefactor making themselves known to the recipient; also a reason for the karma transaction should be included. This system would allow people to know the reasons why karma has been issued or detracted, and would preclude the forum degenerating into a squabble and negate a verbal 'night of the long knives'.

I would also like to see the ability to 'ghost' and be online incognito removed. Do people have something to hide? It is unfair if moderators are online and silent running, in invisible mode, and pulling the plug on posts and sometimes even whole threads, then sitting back leaving the other mods' to cop the flack.

A little bit of honesty and integrity would pay dividends in the form of trust and respect.

Well said Sparky, I would like to feel that if I had a complaint, it would be taken seriously and action taken if nessesary!I don't mind being oversee'd by a moderator but it seems that the first to make a complaint is the winner every time!!! I recently had critisism of a dissagreement with Ki*** , If the moderators had examined the thread, They would have seen who was the aggressor, but they sided with him AND GAVE OUT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS so that he could continue his verbal crap!! WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THIS SITE??

Sorry Roy. I love the Accy web, but until you make every member EVEN, Members will not be happy! PLEASE be impartial to family/friends and listen to your faithful members

Sparkologist · 19-10-2004, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Busman747

...If the moderators had examined the thread, They would have seen who was the aggressor, but they sided with him AND GAVE OUT MY E-MAIL ADDRESS so that he could continue his verbal crap!!

If that is the case, then it is totally out of order.

My assumption in this case is that Mr Angry could well have been a silent moderator, without actually anouncing it to the hoi-polloi. Maybe this could have given him the ability to find out your e-mail address.... just a thought, a theory, perhaps.

The resultant ambush of your e-mail inbox doesn't surprise me in the slightest though.

Doug · 20-10-2004, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Sparkologist

A little bit of honesty and integrity would pay dividends in the form of trust and respect.

What do other Accywebbers feel? Let's have an open and healthy debate, where everyone's opinion is respected, even if it is the polar opposite of your own.

Very Well put Sparkologist, I would doubt if any of this could be put any better.

Darby · 20-10-2004, 05:14

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I thought the post was relevant and appreciated Princesshales' wish to apologise even if it was difficult to read. I was also having an interesting discussion there with Darby about pigs udders.

Please Willow...my fingers are very sensitive....especially when being mocked!!

Returning to the initial posting. Tealeaf also asked...and nobody has yet answered.

Have we a moderator or not? Could He/she please answer my question?

Or do I see dark forces at work?

WillowTheWhisp · 20-10-2004, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Sparkologist

I would also like to see the ability to 'ghost' and be online incognito removed. Do people have something to hide? It is unfair if moderators are online and silent running, in invisible mode, and pulling the plug on posts and sometimes even whole threads, then sitting back leaving the other mods' to cop the flack.

A little bit of honesty and integrity would pay dividends in the form of trust and respect.

What do other Accywebbers feel? Let's have an open and healthy debate, where everyone's opinion is respected, even if it is the polar opposite of your own.

I'm not sure that I object to the 'ghosting' as such because there may well be instances when it's a good idea to have a lurking moderator who can pull the plug in necessary instances such as a certain member we had not too long ago who refused to stay banned and reappeared in different guises with the sole intent of offending people (either individually or en masse) but I do agree that when a thread has been closed it would be nice to know why and by whom. Likewise the deletion of individual posts which then makes subsequent replies look stupid.

I'm all for open and healthy debate and would hope that mature adults could agree to disagree with each other without having to resort to petty insults and unfounded accusations never mind the karma snitching.

I may not agree with some people's opinion on some points but I would still defend their right to have that opinion.

I agree that more openness and honesty would lead to greater trust and respect. I've only ever had one minor "humph" and that was when a post of mine was deleted for saying more than a basic "hello" to a new member in an intro thread yet other threads in that same forum contain conversations about different subjects relating to the initial posting by the "newbie". Can there really be any valid reason to delete a post apart from offensive content? (I've even seen posts with offensive content which have remained in situ, the reason being given that someone has replied to them! Perhaps what we really need is a bit of consistency.)

OK, Sparky that's my input into the debate.