World Maths Day Today - Page 6

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 22:48

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Originally Posted by cashman

Come up stanley next home game n have a pint bought fer yeh, possibly even 2.

I love it when a plan comes together, do i have to watch the game though?

susie123 · 20-03-2013, 22:50

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Originally Posted by gpick24

rocket fuel in the greyhound.

Is that to make it go faster?

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 22:50

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Is that the regular bitter in there? I regularly have a couple of prematch pints and I can't say I've noticed the effects. Maybe I'm not drinking enough of it?

Maybe it`s changed now, been a while since I was in there, it was under £1.50 a pint and it was lager that i`d never heard of.

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 22:51

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Originally Posted by susie123

Is that to make it go faster?

Definitely used to slow me down to a virtual stop.

Wynonie Harris · 20-03-2013, 22:55

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Originally Posted by gpick24

Maybe it`s changed now, been a while since I was in there, it was under £1.50 a pint and it was lager that i`d never heard of.

Ah right, I stick to bitter myself!

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 23:00

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Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707

I get it. I was confused-I thought algebra was an actual mathematical theory involving numbers and letters-which my brain didn't entertain the logic of!I used to sit there thinking 'Maths is numbers. English is letters-what's the deal with mixing the beggars up?!?'

In the above situation I could work that out-I'm not THAT bad

but never thought of it as algebra.

That just shows that the problem was really with the teacher, it`s the teachers job to find a way to make the student understand, I must have had a good teacher cos i found maths easy, and i`ve explained it the way it was explained to me, if you`d had my maths teacher you`d probably have walked through the exams.

Sunflower49 · 20-03-2013, 23:05

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

But c= a divided by b. So you're both right.

20 divided by 4= 5 is arithmetic.
a divided by b =c, values known and unknown, is algebra.

*I* got something right!

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Originally Posted by gpick24

That just shows that the problem was really with the teacher, it`s the teachers job to find a way to make the student understand, I must have had a good teacher cos i found maths easy, and i`ve explained it the way it was explained to me, if you`d had my maths teacher you`d probably have walked through the exams.

It kind of, wasn't explained at all! From what I remember it was kind of ' Here, do this'!
I got a D and needed a C for 'A' levels but I got around it by saying I would re-takeGCSE Maths alongside the 'A' Levels. The college Maths room was freezing and noisy and I decided I couldn't be bothered with it so I left after one lesson.

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 23:15

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Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707

It kind of, wasn't explained at all! From what I remember it was kind of ' Here, do this'!

That`s just someone not even interested in doing there job properly? If you were in america you could probably sue.

Sunflower49 · 20-03-2013, 23:30

Haha probably!

Some people are naturally better than others, though. As I said my being not good at Maths became such a huge deal in my family, if I sound like a 'diva' I apologise but I was actually scared of it-I never dare even ask a teacher if I was stuck because I felt so bad about myself for being bad at it and thought the teacher would shout at me and think I was stupid.

I excelled in English and other subjects so I just concentrated on those and hid away in Maths classes pretending I wasn't there lol.

After I left school and went to college I realised I wasn't ever going to be 'good' at Maths but I was nowhere near as bad as I had thought. It was a very happy revelation

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 23:42

I think the problem is, people see maths as a scary subject, something they dismiss too easily, not saying this is you, but i`ve seen it within my own family, and the problem i find is with the way they are taught.
A while ago, my step daughter was having trouble with long multiplication, I asked her to show me how she would work out a simple long multiplication sum and it`s no wonder she couldn`t do it.
The way she was shown at school was so complicated it was unbelievable.
I showed her how I was shown at school, job done, she knew how to do it.

Sunflower49 · 20-03-2013, 23:55

You're right-I think my Dad was definitely the basis of the problem! And I am very much an advocate of it being the way you teach it.

There's things I've taught to friends and family-I'm talking just every day things but it's the same principle-such as my Grandmother who was adamant she wouldn't get a mobile 'phone-we were all worried about her not being contactable, and she wasn't having it-she'd never get it, etc..People had given up on her ever getting one but I think they just didn't understand WHY she didn't understand and I took time to.

I sat down with her for around an hour and ran her through how they worked-how to use hers, what things meant etc and she's never off the thing now

gpick24 · 20-03-2013, 23:59

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Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707

You're right-I think my Dad was definitely the basis of the problem! And I am very much an advocate of it being the way you teach it.

There's things I've taught to friends and family-I'm talking just every day things but it's the same principle-such as my Grandmother who was adamant she wouldn't get a mobile 'phone-we were all worried about her not being contactable, and she wasn't having it-she'd never get it, etc..People had given up on her ever getting one but I think they just didn't understand WHY she didn't understand and I took time to.

I sat down with her for around an hour and ran her through how they worked-how to use hers, what things meant etc and she's never off the thing now

That`s exactly what is needed. A bit of one on one.

jaysay · 21-03-2013, 09:34

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Originally Posted by gpick24

I think you under estimate just how much you use things like algebra, most of us will use it on a regular basis.
A quick example -
You are in the pub, you have £20 to spend on drinks, drinks cost £4 each, how many drinks can you afford.

What the hell has that got to do with algebra

jaysay · 21-03-2013, 09:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay

What the hell has that got to do with algebra

Didn't realize this thread had taken off when I made the above post. Still can't see where algebra comes in, to me its just straight division 20 divided by 4 equals 5 simples, why complicate it saying its algebra

gpick24 · 21-03-2013, 09:59

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Didn't realize this thread had taken off when I made the above post. Still can't see where algebra comes in, to me its just straight division 20 divided by 4 equals 5 simples, why complicate it saying its algebra

Just labelling it as algebra doesn`t make it more complicated, it`s just a simple example of how we use it everyday without knowing it.
Algebra is basically arithmatic where the unknown number is in the wrong place.
2+1=? is just basic arithmatic
2+?=3 is basic algebra.
Just in school, they teach with letters first, then tell you what to swap the letters with to get the answer.
a+b=c
if a=2 and c=3, what is b.