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15-06-2012, 15:02
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Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
For the past few weeks the Observer's featured articles about the charity Maundy Grange.
Dorothy McGregor, the founder, says so far this year they've given 534 food parcels.
She's quoted once again in this weekend's newspaper, saying that...
'For many people , life in Accrington in 2012 is worse than it was in The Depression.'
What utter drivel!
I've not heard of many people dying now, because they can't afford to call the out the doctor.
Nor have I seen many children in Accrington with nothing on their feet.
Unlike in the Great Depression we now have a Welfare State, with a generous array of social benefits.
People only go hungry now because of fecklessness.
I don't think she's a bad woman, just woefully naive. Though I would question the benefits she brings to the area.
It's not for nothing drug addicts are called users.
Her providing for them, some of which is sold to buy drugs, makes her a facilitator, in my book.
In response to her outlandish claim, that life in Accrington today is worse than The Depression, I'd love to ask St. Dorothy just one question.
Just how many registered smack-heads were there in Accrington, in the twenties, and thirties?
I'm guessing it wasn't many.
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15-06-2012, 15:33
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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In response to her outlandish claim, that life in Accrington today is worse than The Depression, I'd love to ask St. Dorothy just one question.
Just how many registered smack-heads were there in Accrington, in the twenties, and thirties?
I'm guessing it wasn't many.
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I would agree wi her,It is worse now n this foolish woman is responsible.
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15-06-2012, 17:11
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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I would agree wi her,It is worse now n this foolish woman is responsible.
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Ya they now come from miles around to get "help"
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15-06-2012, 18:03
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I think what she's does is with best intentions and she is a good woman however I can't disagree with anything said in the previous posts
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15-06-2012, 18:41
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
My personal opinion is that she is fulfilling her own needs.
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15-06-2012, 18:45
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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My personal opinion is that she is fulfilling her own needs.
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Think you've hit the nail on the head Anne
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15-06-2012, 18:47
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
Went past there this morning on my way to WORK there really are some stunning examples of humanity hanging around there, i bet the shops around them plus 2 etc are really glad to have the maundy crew hanging around outside their premises it makes for a warm and welcoming sight for any shoppers wanting to go into other shops.
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15-06-2012, 18:56
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
To say we have a true level of poverty in Hyndburn is just ludicrous.
I returned last night from Libreville, Gabon in Sub Saharan Africa, having spent a few days there flying some clients in and out.
While there I had the 'pleasure' of going for a walk in a relatively safe part of Africa.
The Hotel, had a contingent of the WHO, Red Cross, UNICEF, The UN all giving basic medical aid, injections etc in the bar next to the lobby.
Outside the street was next to a open sewer, with the appropriate stench. Most of the houses were of authentic 'ghetto' construction.
Children and adults with no shoes, few dirty clothes and lets not discuss food.
Now in Accrington, I don't see any of the above. Recently at the A&E at Blackburn, with a relative I saw our underclass, they had fake designer clothes, ciggarette's, they complained as they wanted the hospital to take them home, seeing they don't have a car.
A friend has a shop on Abbey Street, they say it is becoming more and more a haven for our towns drug users and for those from outside the town, all using Miss McgGregor's hospitality. I know to some she is a new Mother Teresa, but in Accrington.....
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15-06-2012, 19:02
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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I think what she's does is with best intentions and she is a good woman however I can't disagree with anything said in the previous posts
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...and I don't disagree with you.
She's kindly...but foolish.
It's tough love that's needed.
Not butties, and twenty quid for 'the leccy'...which ends up in the dealer's pocket.
She's also totally wrong, in saying society's worse today, than it was locally in the depths of the 1920's/30's depression.
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15-06-2012, 19:06
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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Went past there this morning on my way to WORK there really are some stunning examples of humanity hanging around there, i bet the shops around them plus 2 etc are really glad to have the maundy crew hanging around outside their premises it makes for a warm and welcoming sight for any shoppers wanting to go into other shops.
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Yes, and it's not just one shop.
They've taken over the whole street, as others have moved out.
Wonder why they moved?
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15-06-2012, 19:10
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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Originally Posted by garinda
Yes, and it's not just one shop.
They've taken over the whole street, as others have moved out.
Wonder why they moved?
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Shamefully, all with the blessing of H.B.C.
I wonder how much having the tourist attraction that is the Maundy Model Village, actually costs the council tax payer?
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15-06-2012, 20:35
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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My personal opinion is that she is fulfilling her own needs.
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Interesting view - this seems to fit
Psychological egoism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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15-06-2012, 20:59
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
Ok ... I know I could go to Google, but what is Maundy Grange
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15-06-2012, 21:05
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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Originally Posted by garinda
...and I don't disagree with you.
She's kindly...but foolish.
It's tough love that's needed.
Not butties, and twenty quid for 'the leccy'...which ends up in the dealer's pocket.
She's also totally wrong, in saying society's worse today, than it was locally in the depths of the 1920's/30's depression.
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She is old enough to have seen with her own eyes, the effects of the 30's depression, whilst she thinks she is helping the poor, she isn't, she's just helping the junkies to keep on being junkies, and no way is she running all those shops, seems like some do gooders have found their niche.
Retlaw.
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15-06-2012, 21:09
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Re: Worse than The Depression - says Maundy founder.
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Originally Posted by annesingleton
My personal opinion is that she is fulfilling her own needs.
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Spot on Anne. She needs to be needed.
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