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31-05-2008, 00:03
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Re: Would you do it.
It's hard to tell from a short interview on the BBC news, but she seemed a good, honest woman, albeit one who is heartbroken.
From the report I understood the brothers didn't know their victim, though they showed cctv footage of him being savagely attacked.
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31-05-2008, 00:09
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Re: Would you do it.
How would people feel if it were their child who had been attacked?? I am sure you would want the perpetrator brought to justice and if their family were shielding them it would never happen. It boils down to right and wrong and at the age of these lads they should know the difference!!!
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31-05-2008, 00:12
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Re: Would you do it.
I still say it's easy to type one thing.. but to give you child away?
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31-05-2008, 00:12
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Re: Would you do it.
Being a mum of three grown up sons I applaud the woman, It must have ripped her heart out to do what she did but I would in all honesty done the same.
In my opinion this is the only way to get our society back on track, and if there were more parents like her I think we would see a vast improvement in the way kids are today.
If I suspected one or all of my children behaving in such a way I wouldnt have any doubt but to hand them over. It wouldnt mean I didnt love them , infact quite the opposite and although it would tear my heart out I would like to think that one day they would turn out to be better people.
In the report on tv it said the woman has been banned from seeining her grandchild, well im sorry but the father should be banned till he can learn how to behave and the mother of the child should be standing by this lads mum. if that makes sense
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31-05-2008, 00:18
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Re: Would you do it.
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I still say it's easy to type one thing.. but to give you child away?
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Personally I wouldn't say anything I don't mean.
To the people who wouldn't shop their nearest and dearest, fair enough, it's their choice, but I think they're wrong.
Loving someone isn't always easy.
Actions-consequences.
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31-05-2008, 00:22
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Re: Would you do it.
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I still say it's easy to type one thing.. but to give you child away?
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If it was your child that was attacked would you not want justice?
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31-05-2008, 00:24
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Re: Would you do it.
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I still say it's easy to type one thing.. but to give you child away?
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Mancie its not giving your child away. These thugs were not children but grown men. they should know better, and as for thier mother, she must feel like she has given birth to, and raised monsters, And IT WILL have broken her heart to do what she has done.
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31-05-2008, 00:27
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Re: Would you do it.
If she hadn't done it what would she have been protecting them from? Prison? Justice?
Perhaps she acted to protect them from ever doing something like this again.
They were sentenced to two years, and will be out in twelve months if they keep their heads down.
Hardly an eye for an eye, quite literally.
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31-05-2008, 01:19
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Re: Would you do it.
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I still say it's easy to type one thing.. but to give you child away?
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I am beginning to think you condone what these pond life have done...
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31-05-2008, 02:20
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Re: Would you do it.
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I am beginning to think you condone what these pond life have done...
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Now I did not and do not condone what has been done, I am simply pointing out that for so many people to stand and and say, more or less "I would do the right thing" is not what they may do if it really happend to them.. I say again, to give up your son for life would not be the same as them getting a clip round the ear for the wrong they have done... you would give him/her up for the sake of doing right?
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31-05-2008, 02:26
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Re: Would you do it.
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If she hadn't done it what would she have been protecting them from? Prison? Justice?
Perhaps she acted to protect them from ever doing something like this again.
They were sentenced to two years, and will be out in twelve months if they keep their heads down.
Hardly an eye for an eye, quite literally.
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Well they deserve more.. but the sentence is up to the Judge.. would you really tell on your son if you knew it would be a life sentence? if so why? to have justice in this world?
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31-05-2008, 02:46
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Re: Would you do it.
I think if i had kids then yes i would hand them in.
In fact if it was any member of my family i would.
Yes it would be heartbreaking but you have to do what you believe to be right no matter who is involved imho.
If it was somebody you didn't know but you knew they had committed a crime you would call the police so why should it be any different if it's family?
My aunty took my cousin(her son) to the police years ago because he was on drugs and he came out of it a better person.
Who knows what would of happened to him if she hadn't shopped him?
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31-05-2008, 02:52
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Re: Would you do it.
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I think if i had kids then yes i would hand them in.
In fact if it was any member of my family i would.
Yes it would be heartbreaking but you have to do what you believe to be right no matter who is involved imho.
If it was somebody you didn't know but you knew they had committed a crime you would call the police so why should it be any different if it's family?
My aunty took my cousin(her son) to the police years ago because he was on drugs and he came out of it a better person.
Who knows what would of happened to him if she hadn't shopped him?
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Again the point is being missed... would you shop your teenage son if you knew he would be in prison for life?..
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31-05-2008, 03:02
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Re: Would you do it.
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Again the point is being missed... would you shop your teenage son if you knew he would be in prison for life?..
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First of all they weren't teenagers but grown men.
Second of all if my son or daughter killed somebody then yes.
No matter what the circumstances you can't let somebody get away with murder.
Hopefully i will never have to face such a heartbreaking decision but you have to do what is right.
If i knew a stranger who had murdered somebody then i would call the police, it can't be one rule for ne and one for another.
Besides if it became known that i was covering up for them then i would also be charged.
You may think i'm heartless but you don't know me so hope you won't judge me for this.
I am just being honest.
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31-05-2008, 08:14
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Re: Would you do it.
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Originally Posted by katex
Still feel there is some history here though .. they surely can't have suddenly attacked someone like this and been caught laughing about it, etc. ? Don't get me wrong, would like to think I would do as this lady, just can't be 100% sure I would.
Will try and watch this interview in the morning to see what she has to say.
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Kate, the mother was interviewed on the 1.30 news yesterday and according to her story, she heard her boys boasting about what they had done to this man...it was then she decided to phone the police and shop them...although the police say there was quite a lot of DNA evidence that would have convicted them if the mother had not conacted them.
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