Would you shop your kids

[cashman]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Why is it as state due to me supposidly not being in the real world.

Do you realise the complications your child having a criminal record could being for them, having to disclose the conviction for 5 years. (maybe more dependant on the punshment given by the Courts).

yeh n do fools like you realise innocent lives have been lost n quite a few nearly burnt alive by these morons? but yeh wouldn't shop yer little darling,it may ruin his chances, what about the poor innocents.

[mobertol]

A resounding "Yes" - I've always told my 2 boys (now 19 and 23) that honesty is the best pollicy and to admit their wrong-doing immediately and accept the punishment (and yes, i did smack them when they were young if they did anything wrong!), they are not perfect but hopefully they are at least honest.
If basic rules and discipline are given at home -followed up at school and in their social activities, most youngsters grow up to be good citizens. It's natural for them to want to test boundaries as they are growing up, so you get the odd time where they try it on in one minor way or another. I think that the fact that so many of these "looters" jumped on the band-wagon once they saw what was started by organised groups and gangs, shows a general and quite diffuse lack of discipline and consequently of principles from the family in the first place and then in schools where the staff have their hands tied these days.... I'm not saying "Bring back the birch" or for that matter "caning" in schools, but, on the other hand a return to basic rules and regulations which are then enforced is a must, if you keep letting your children off the hook for their misdemeanours, then they'll just carry on doing what they fancy with no thought for the consequences and no sense or wrong or right.
(Sorry if this is difficult reading but my punctuation has probably gone to pot as this subject really makes me see red!)

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by cashman

yeh n do fools like you realise innocent lives have been lost n quite a few nearly burnt alive by these morons? but yeh wouldn't shop yer little darling,it may ruin his chances, what about the poor innocents.

Hang on, read the opening post, It didnt mention killing, or arson, or even vandalism.

It mentioned if the child came home with ill gotten gains, thats all, these could of been picked up from the street from a previous looter.

Also if any child was shopped under 16 they will get NOTHING, so that IMO shows they can get away with things so not much deterrant there.

As I stated I would deal my own punishment and believe me it would be worse than what the court could do.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Why is it as state due to me supposidly not being in the real world.

Do you realise the complications your child having a criminal record could being for them, having to disclose the conviction for 5 years. (maybe more dependant on the punshment given by the Courts).

I have to agree with with Cashman here, you have to stop the rot at some point and if they end up with a criminal record they have to live with it.
Saw on SKY news, earlier, footage of a young woman leaving the courts -she had apparently given herself over and admitted to stealing a TV -as they tried to film her she was covering her face in apparent shame -that feeling will stay with her and return every time she is tempted in the future, hopefully it will keep her out of trouble in the future....If you keep shielding them from their responsabilities they will never face up to them and make the important step of growing up!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Hang on, read the opening post, It didnt mention killing, or arson, or even vandalism.

It mentioned if the child came home with ill gotten gains, thats all, these could of been picked up from the street from a previous looter.

Also if any child was shopped under 16 they will get NOTHING, so that IMO shows they can get away with things so not much deterrant there.

As I stated I would deal my own punishment and believe me it would be worse than what the court could do.

yer quite correct, but everyone is well aware of how these things were initially obtained, you saying that don't matter?also i think yer saying what yeh would prefer to believe, they could have been picked up on street from a previous looter, how likely is that? the punishments aint severe enough i agree, but thats summat else, the implications of parents sorting it out themselves are not ones i wish to contemplate.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes........I would...and the fact that the child would have a criminal record which may affect their future is one of the consequnece they would have to take for their criminal actions.
Looting is thieving...theft is criminal.
And they might be worried about what punishment the courts mete out...but they would need to be much more worried about my reaction.

One of the big problems of todays feckless society is that children, youths, young adults have no fear of authority, there appear to be no consequences for their actions.
It is time to make our children aware that their actions have consequences....not only for themselves, but for their family and also for the community at large.
I think that you answering NO to the question is honest, but very misguided.

[Pudwoppa]

I've had this conversation with my dad last night. He said yes he'd have reported me,after giving me a swift crack round back o'th'ed. And I totally agree.

[garinda]

Shop them?

I'd shoot them.

[Alan Varrechia]

I imagine a lot of the ones doing the looting were sent out with shopping listd off their parents, so i doubt they would shop them. In fact they probably sent them knowing they wouldn't be treated as badly in the courts.

[shillelagh]

yes i would ... and spugs says yes as well ...

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I think that you answering NO to the question is honest, but very misguided.

Why misguided, truth is its easy to be part of the crowd and say "Yes I Would" but in the real world it would probably be a different story.

I presume all you good citizens have NEVER bought any goods that have been offered in the pub or under the counter or off a friend on the cheap.
Or as a youngster NEVER did anything that was wrong.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Have a read of this nonsense, from yesterday's LT:

What's on: Blaze Urban Culture Jam Festival, Accrington, August 29 (From Lancashire Telegraph)

It would appear that the good people of Accy are now going to be forking out hard earned money for some Frog to come over here and display his graffitti project.

There is only one word for this - Madness. Can someone please tell me who is responsible for this carry on, and is it not too late for it to be stopped?

I thought this sort of trash would have been stamped out when there was a change of power.I understand cuts have to be made but to waste money saved by cuts on crudd like this is ridiculous.

As for shopping my kids to the police im undecided as my punishment would be a lot more severe than the courts but your not allowed to punish your kids these days so the police may be the only option.Also due to recent events i have no faith what so ever in the police as they seem reluctant to arrest people who put children in to hospital using their car as a weapon even when all the information is handed to them on a plate.

The police cant even return a phone call so what chance have you got of them coming to arrest your sprog when you ring up

[odders]

It is all about risk and consequence. Before you take the risk, you should be fully aware of worst possible outcome. Generations have normally thought of police involvement and court, the shame it brings. Nowadays kids and their parents have no respect for the police and courts. Badges of honour getting your name in the paper or an ASBO. Now it is all about the risk and who cares what happens...

Oh yes to the question, they would rather the law deal with them, than me

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Why is it as state due to me supposidly not being in the real world.

Do you realise the complications your child having a criminal record could being for them, having to disclose the conviction for 5 years. (maybe more dependant on the punshment given by the Courts).

Hello, he or she WOULD be a criminal and would probable go on to do it again

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Why misguided, truth is its easy to be part of the crowd and say "Yes I Would" but in the real world it would probably be a different story.

I presume all you good citizens have NEVER bought any goods that have been offered in the pub or under the counter or off a friend on the cheap.
Or as a youngster NEVER did anything that was wrong.

I have always thought that YOU don't live in the real world now you've proved it